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HolyHat 01-30-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9364805)
I don't think barkley has a weak arm by any stretch. I think his INT's were up because he faced ALOT of pressure, his o-line was not very good, he constently had pressure directly on him. So rather than going thru his reads like he was able to years previous he would try to touch pass into tight windows.

My 1 knock on barkley is i think he falls in love with touch passes to much rather than actually showing off his arm strength. Which is fine if you have the time to set it up and read it properly. But this year he didn't have that luxury

It's always a bit scary when a college QB has had shoulder and knee problems. I think Barkley will have a hard time staying healthy in the NFL

fairladyZ 01-30-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9364829)
It's always a bit scary when a college QB has had shoulder and knee problems. I think Barkley will have a hard time staying healthy in the NFL

good possibility, i don't think the knee bothers me, and honestly the shoulder didn't bother me either but it seems that he still hasn't healed. I remember watching an interview with him where he was hoping he would make the bowl game, but he wasn't able to make it in time. Seemed he only needed like another week. now i'm hearing he still hasn't recovered to make the senior bowl. Has me a little more concerned about it for sure.

The one good thing is that it wasn't a serious injury, no tears and no surgery, maybe he's just being cautious and building more muscle on it.

milkman 01-30-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9364805)
I don't think barkley has a weak arm by any stretch. I think his INT's were up because he faced ALOT of pressure, his o-line was not very good, he constently had pressure directly on him. So rather than going thru his reads like he was able to years previous he would try to touch pass into tight windows.

My 1 knock on barkley is i think he falls in love with touch passes to much rather than actually showing off his arm strength. Which is fine if you have the time to set it up and read it properly. But this year he didn't have that luxury

I do think people overstate his lack of arm strength, but he would not be in the upper half of the league when he gets drafted.

Matt Barkley is going to succeed or fail in the NFL because of his dedication to his craft, or lack thereof.

I tend to believe he's a guy that will put in the work.

HolyHat 01-30-2013 12:49 PM

The knee brace concerns me...
http://www.google.com/url?source=img...4qP3PUkPVQCmwg

milkman 01-30-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9364848)

Rehab pick up game?

ct 01-30-2013 12:55 PM

Took me awhile to get caught up in here, and I have to say this is one of the best thread discussions I've seen on CP for a long long time, so thanks to all for excellent point/counterpoints w/out degrading to stupidity, which too often dominates this place.

I won't claim to be well studied on draft prospects, just don't watch college fb like i used to anymore. I have seen quite a bit of film clips of Geno, good and some not real good. Many of you are far more informed than I am, so I appreciate the discussion and information!!

Seems to me we need to stop analyzing Geno, or any other QB, in a vacuum or vs each other even, and definitely not vs. Luck/RG3, or Brady/Manning, and definitely not Cassel. Please let Cassel go, it's over. We need to focus on the system to be built by Reid/Dorsey and Co., and who will plug and grow the best. Cause this is precisely how they see it.

I've heard lots of things about how Reid values a strong OLine, but frankly I just don't think this is true. His OLines have always had issues, which is a big reason why McNabb was always on the run improvising outside the pocket. Our new system QB must be extremely proficient in the scripted, quick read, short passing game, with mobility to create and improvise. And, be able to stretch the field, even if the success rate is very low. Reid will call the fly pattern as #1 read, with the very specific intent to keep the defense honest.

Can Geno do those things and be highly successful? I definitely think so. More so than any other imo. He skipped the Sr Bowl and gained ground on all the other QBs. That alone eliminates any other QB from #1 pick consideration. Can Geno fix his mechanical oddities? That's what coaching can do, or at least what coaching is supposed to do. For the 1st time possibly ever, we have a staff which makes absolute premium impetis in developing a franchise QB. And even more so, to always have another project QB understudy in addition to the franchise QB.

I'm on the Geno #1 bandwagon, have been for awhile. I don't need him to throw at the combine, and I seriously doubt he will. He and his team do not care what we think, or how much we want him to prove it. I'm betting he can prove all he needs to at his pro day, and he will be the #1 pick.

Then CP can start the bickering meltdowns once more. :)

HolyHat 01-30-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9364808)
Page 20 and 21 are pure money in this thread. Great discussion

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9364819)
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Correction: Post #286 - #314 are pure money. Great Discussion.

milkman 01-30-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9364872)
Correction: Post #286 - #314 are pure money. Great Discussion.

Brees like anticipation.

fairladyZ 01-30-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9364848)
The knee brace concerns me...

not me, it's not like he's a WR or anything. I don't know the extent of why he wears it but good precaution, may as well wear it just incase he does take a hit on his lead leg. Would be better to have then not to have.

RealSNR 01-30-2013 01:26 PM

"Great discussion!"

"No, YOU made some great points!"

"I enjoy reading this thread with you guys minus BlackBob"

Do you ladies want to sit down, crack open a tube of cookie dough and talk about your feelings?

htismaqe 01-30-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9364999)
"Great discussion!"

"No, YOU made some great points!"

"I enjoy reading this thread with you guys minus BlackBob"

Do you ladies want to sit down, crack open a tube of cookie dough and talk about your feelings?

**** YOU.

Sorter 01-30-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9364999)
"Great discussion!"

"No, YOU made some great points!"

"I enjoy reading this thread with you guys minus BlackBob"

Do you ladies want to sit down, crack open a tube of cookie dough and talk about your feelings?

I never turn down free cookie dough.


Where's it at, bitch? :)

Nirvana58 01-30-2013 02:02 PM

This is a thread about Qb's on CP. What the hell is going on here? If someone doesn't call someone else a true fan, genobater, or a racist soon I'm going to lose it. **** it you all can die in an aids fire.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-30-2013 02:08 PM

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fairladyZ 01-30-2013 02:14 PM

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