Foles IS different from Cassel or other situations where backups follow a coach or GM. Foles will most likely be the starter in Philly if he stays. I think he's already on his way to establishing himself as a starter. I personally almost see him as a rookie. Yeah, I'd like to see Smith or Wilson, but mainly for the unknown that they are. I'll say I like Foles more than all but Smith and Wilson in this draft.

You're a ****ing liar.

Give me a list of names, dude. I'll even spot you the first.

1. Saccopoo

Go. Your turn.

For what they just gave Vick, I doubt Foles is the starter, or atleast he has somewhat of a hill to climb. I don't know that I like Foles more than Barkley, but Glennon, Nassib and Manuel, sure.

shit just got real.
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Not according to the coach he doesn't. Vick signed a one year deal. Kelly seems very open to having a competition for the job, and he said as much.

I'm a liar?

LMAO

Touch a nerve there, tough guy?

After Albert and Bowe are signed to long term contracts and Matt Moore is signed to be the vet backup with west coast offense experience, I think Reid/Dorsey will choose Geno Smith or Nick Foles to be the face of the franchise moving forward.

Foles is AR's starter if he's still in Philly so he's not trading for a backup. He's trading for HIS starting QB. Both Foles and Geno played in the Air Raid offense in college, so AR has a good information base to compare Geno with Foles. If AR feels the ceiling for both are similar, it would make sense to try and get additional value from the #1 over all pick by swapping first rounders with Philly so they can get Joeckel. Kelly may not want to take a chance on the Cards trading ahead of Philly for him and Foles would be a cheap price to pay because he really can't use him to run spread option.

With the #4 pick, the Chiefs can take Chance Warmack. An o-line of Albert, Warmack, Hudson, Asamoah, and Winston would rival San Fran's for league best. If AR judges Geno and Foles to have similar ceilings, I think Foles plus Warmack would provide maximum value for the #1 overall pick. I would only acquire Fole with a swap of first rounders. Otherwise I take Geno #1.

Do you believe that Matt Moore has given up on being a starter in the NFL?

Well, you then why try and trade your starting QB for a 3 or 4 round pick? Doesn't seem like teams tend to trade away starting QB's very often.

for the love of ****; we are NOT drafting a god damned lineman. PLEASE absorb this in to your skull.
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He probably should.

Think that's why it's said they're asking for higher than a 3rd or 4th.

You've been blowing this Geno Smith thing way out of proportion all ****ing offseason.

You don't think he's a good QB. I get it. Whatever. But your insistence that Geno Smith fans throw a fit whenever somebody talks up Tyler Wilson or another QB, or that they claim they will quit the team if another QB gets taken is complete bullshit.

For me, this entire offseason of draft talk has been about wanting the Chiefs to move in a different direction from Pioli, who would have told Albert and Bowe to go **** themselves a long time ago. We'd already be hearing from Peter King leaks about how Luke Joeckel is the best football player to ever live. I don't want that, which is why I berate the ****ing morons that think it's a good idea.

If that sounds whiney or childish to you, look in the ****ing mirror.

They said they want a 1 or 2. They also said they wanted 2 firsts for McNabb.


I don't know what they want. I'd say Dennis Dixon or whoever doesn't exactly mean they are for sure shipping him off. He played pretty well for them last year and I don't see Kelly bringing the same system from Oregon with him, so I'd say FOles could fit.

Or also saying they don't want to trade him.