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Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9236820)
Sours are fun, but also kind of a treasure hunt. The best ones are hard to find and fly off the shelves pretty quick. Don't even get me started on Cantillon and other lambics.

I don't know anything about lambics. This is the first Flanders red I ever tried. Bought it spur of the moment, wanting to try something new and saw it at one of my wine shops.

phisherman 12-23-2012 07:06 PM

So as to not shock your palate by going too big too quick, stick with some other Flanders Reds or maybe a Flanders Oud Bruin, like Petrus Aged Pale, or, if you can find it locally, Odell's The Meddler. The Oud Bruins are typically not as fruity. They will be a bit more sour and will typically show a bit more oak in the flavor profile. I can usually find both of these here in Lee's Summit pretty easily.

A lot of "American Wild Ales" will also have some element of sourness, though the definition for the category is VERY broad.

Shag 12-23-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9236472)
Duchesse is pretty good, if not a little sweet for the Flanders Red style. Very thirst quenching, and a nice entry into the world of sour beers. Be careful, once you go down the rabbit hole into sour beers, there's no going back. :)

My two favorites if you're going for the Flanders Red are Rodenbach Grand Cru and Cuvee Des Jacobins. You can get the Cuvee Des Jacobins around here; I've typically found it at Lukas in OP, KS, but you'll have to go to Illinois probably at the closest to find the Rodenbach (unless you order it online). They're both a bit more sour, but still very well balanced beers. *self professed sour beer nerd here*

I love the Cuvee des Jacobins. So delicious...

OnTheWarpath15 12-24-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9236476)
Interesting that the 2013 Saison Brett is out already. I'm pretty sure we won't see that in KC until sometime in mid-January or later. I hope I'm wrong, Saison Brett is the heat!

It's not out yet. I goofed.

I went back to the store to pick up more, and noticed at was 2012. Still tasty.

Picked up a bottle of Rye-on-Rye as well.

Bearcat 12-24-2012 03:30 PM

Pleasant surprises at Hy-Vee... hadn't seen any of these around before today.


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...224_142253.jpg

Fire Me Boy! 12-24-2012 09:29 PM

Just finished off Sam Adams Stony Brook Red. It's pretty nice. Similar to the Dutchesse, not not quite as good.

Reaper16 12-24-2012 09:32 PM

Drinking a 2010 bottle of Boulevard Harvest Dance. That beer is tremendous fresh, and only gets worse with age, I'm discovering. Not that this bottle is bad, but the malt bill isn't gaining enough to offset the loss of Harvest Dance's brilliant hop profile.

phisherman 12-24-2012 09:57 PM

Oh man, my brother in law got me a 750 ml of Drie Fonteinen Scharbeekse Kriek for Christmas. Yum!

Reaper16 12-24-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9239506)
Oh man, my brother in law got me a 750 ml of Drie Fonteinen Scharbeekse Kriek for Christmas. Yum!

Hell yeah!

Phobia 12-25-2012 01:32 AM

I used to think I was a pretty heavy beer snob. I thought I was the snobbiest of the snobby beer snobs on this site. But I have to admit I don't even have the slightest idea what a Dire Fountain Starbucks Keokuk is. Not the foggiest clue.

phisherman 12-25-2012 07:33 AM

You'll just have to step up your snobbishness in the future. Dire Fountain rules.

Shag 12-25-2012 08:48 AM

Found a few bottles of BCBCS in Des Moines yesterday - score. Had no luck up in the Cities. Wish I could find some Cherry Rye...

Going to make some awesome Christmas gifts for a few close friends...

phisherman 12-25-2012 08:56 AM

I'm hoping to snag a Coffee or Cherry when I get up to Chicago soon....

kstater 12-26-2012 08:01 AM

Drank 2011 version of Saison Brett. Had bought 2 that year and cellared one . Well worth the wait.

WV 12-26-2012 06:19 PM

Cracked into my Bourbon County Stout last night and wow. The guy at the liquor store told me it was "big" and I know exactly what he was talking about now.

While I absolutely loved the thick almost oily mouth feel and the huge richness, the "alcohol" flavor wasn't expected. I'm not a hard liquor drinker and I just found the strong notes of Bourbon to be a little much (yes Iunderstand it's aged in Bourbon barrels but still). I love every aspect of this beer except this one. I didn't expect this much bourbon flavor.

okay...now you can tell me what a dumbass I am. LMAO

phisherman 12-26-2012 06:48 PM

They need to be aged. The booziness wears off a bit over time. I drank a 2009 bottle this year and found the bourbony flavor had changed to more of a molasses flavor. Very good and it had mellowed quite nicely.

WV 12-26-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9242408)
They need to be aged. The booziness wears off a bit over time. I drank a 2009 bottle this year and found the bourbony flavor had changed to more of a molasses flavor. Very good and it had mellowed quite nicely.

Really? How long and how (bottle placement...etc)? Educate me in PM or on here if you get a chance or have time. I have two bottles left and really want to try the Coffee Stout. I may get it tomorrow if they have any left.


On that note, I had a bottle of Dogfish pumpkin ale that sat in the fridge for a month or so and while I wasn't impressed with it at all when fresh...it had more pumpkin flavor after it sat.

phisherman 12-26-2012 08:04 PM

Just keep them some place cool and dark. I think that the BCS bottles say they're good for up to 5 years of aging in the bottle. They're probably fine for more, but I've never had one older than 3-4 years before.

I really only age imperial stouts, barley wines, sours, wild ales and lambics. Any IPAish beer isn't a good candidate for aging, as the hops will fade out of the flavor profile over time. There are obviously some exceptions to that rule, but I don't age Hopslam, Sculpin or Pliny The Elder. Those babies are meant to be drank while fresh.

Ceej 12-26-2012 08:16 PM

People are going to hate me.

At this point in time I'm not a huge fan of Tank 7.

Commence jizzles beat down.

DeezNutz 12-26-2012 08:19 PM

Don't like the earthy notes?

Ceej 12-26-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9242591)
Don't like the earthy notes?

Again, I'm just a young beer n00b.

I love the beer at first sip -- it is the after taste that gets me. Just not a fan of that right now.

WV 12-26-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9242564)
Just keep them some place cool and dark. I think that the BCS bottles say they're good for up to 5 years of aging in the bottle. They're probably fine for more, but I've never had one older than 3-4 years before.

I really only age imperial stouts, barley wines, sours, wild ales and lambics. Any IPAish beer isn't a good candidate for aging, as the hops will fade out of the flavor profile over time. There are obviously some exceptions to that rule, but I don't age Hopslam, Sculpin or Pliny The Elder. Those babies are meant to be drank while fresh.

Awesome. Thanks for the info. I did a little more research and will be putting my other two in the basement in a cabinet for a while. The underneath of our front porch will be perfect I think. Poured walls, constant temp...just need a cabinet.

phisherman 12-26-2012 09:42 PM

They will definitely change for the better with a little bit of age on them. Just stash them away and forget about them until next year. Then, next year, you can try a fresh one and an aged one side by side.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 01:05 AM

I'm drinking some really Shitty beer right now, don't try it.

Phobia 12-27-2012 02:11 AM

Found Rye on Rye on tap tonight. That is nectar of the gods and frankly, I believe that descriptor is overused.

phisherman 12-27-2012 07:53 AM

Hard to take it easy on those; they drink soooo smooth.

phisherman 01-09-2013 02:55 PM

Barley's Brewhaus in Overland Park is going to have the only keg of La Folie in KS this Friday at 5 PM.

It's somewhere between a sour/wild ale and a Flanders Oud Bruin. VERY sour. It'll be a hoot!

Bewbies 01-09-2013 03:01 PM

Found Boulevard's Double Wide IPA here in ATL, both in bottle and at a burger joint on tap.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...34gro1_500.gif

frankotank 01-09-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9242583)
People are going to hate me.

At this point in time I'm not a huge fan of Tank 7.

Commence jizzles beat down.

I think it's a beer an individual will either love or hate.
as for me....I'm frankotank! it's my JOB to like Tank 7!

tried this one over the holdays and I really liked it.
6.7% = a six pack is plenty

http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/ui...eschutes-1.jpg

http://www.thekitchn.com/beer-review...essions-180251

Fire Me Boy! 01-09-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9300469)
Found Boulevard's Double Wide IPA here in ATL, both in bottle and at a burger joint on tap.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...34gro1_500.gif

I went to an Italian restaurant in Albany, GA, recently and they had Boulevard Wheat on tap!

HC_Chief 01-09-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9300469)
Found Boulevard's Double Wide IPA here in ATL, both in bottle and at a burger joint on tap.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...34gro1_500.gif

:thumb:
That used to be my favorite beer. It has since been bumped to #2 by Firestone walker's Double Jack. If you are a fan of DIPAs, you need to try it!

Doublewide is gooooood stuff; definitely wins "best label" award in my book.

phisherman 01-09-2013 03:53 PM

Make sure to grab a sixer of Hopslam when it comes out this year. Very good DIPA.

WV 01-09-2013 03:56 PM

Picked up a few to try today.

Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout
Samuel Adams Merry Mischief
Big John Stout
Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2013 06:12 PM

One of the best IPA's I've had recently:

http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/i...eer_137562.jpg

Bump 01-09-2013 07:28 PM

So how much is craft beer where you guys are at? It's ****ing expensive here in Boston. Like a 4 pack of Blvd Double Wide IPA is freaking $13. Usually a 6 or 4 pack costs around $10. Pints of craft beer ranges from $6-15, depending on the beer of course. Something common like Sam Adams costs about $10 for a 6 pack.

Hell a 6 pack of miller ****ing lite costs $8.

phisherman 01-09-2013 07:35 PM

A four pack of Double Wide will run you anywhere from $9 to $11 around KC.

malachi47000 01-09-2013 07:44 PM

drinking 1554 from the new belgium brewing company tonight...........so delicious!

phisherman 01-09-2013 08:43 PM

Don't invite Phobia over to share that stuff. The paint just might come off the walls.

KC native 01-09-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9300625)
Picked up a few to try today.

Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout
Samuel Adams Merry Mischief
Big John Stout
Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout

Old Rasputin is one of my favorite imperial stouts. Good stuff.

Phobia 01-09-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9301680)
Don't invite Phobia over to share that stuff. The paint just might come off the walls.

So true. I had to stop drinking it. I was straining the seams in the back of my shorts.

frankotank 01-10-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9300620)
Make sure to grab a sixer of Hopslam when it comes out this year. Very good DIPA.

good luck with THAT!
I had to get on a list last year just to get a six pack.
if you find a place in the KC area that allows you to buy as much as you want....LET ME KNOW! or at the very least buy a case for yourself.

honestly....IPA's just don't do it for me.....but Hopslam is second best beer I've ever had. and my big ass has had a lot of different beers (plates on the wall at the saucer :thumb:)

#1 BBQ
#2 Hopslam

phisherman 01-10-2013 10:32 AM

Oh, I'll be able to get Hopslam. I don't ever sweat finding beers. If I don't get six packs myself, others help me out or I can just drink it on tap, which is best anyway.

I have some good relationships with liquor store employees around town.

Bearcat 01-10-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9300625)
Picked up a few to try today.

Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout
Samuel Adams Merry Mischief
Big John Stout
Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout

I really like the Organic Chocolate Stout... I bought just about all I could find around town. I thought Old Rasputin was ok... I'd rather have a Lagunitas or SA.

phisherman 01-10-2013 10:45 AM

Also, though Hopslam is highly sought after, I'm a little more excited this year about Bell's releasing their Black Note stout in 4 packs and KC will actually see some of it.

phisherman 01-10-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9302736)
I really like the Organic Chocolate Stout... I bought just about all I could find around town. I thought Old Rasputin was ok... I'd rather have a Lagunitas or SA.

Consider the style different between the Old Rasputin and the Chocolate Stout. A sweet stout versus a Russian Imperial Stout is really like comparing apples and oranges.

Bearcat 01-10-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9302740)
Consider the style different between the Old Rasputin and the Chocolate Stout. A sweet stout versus a Russian Imperial Stout is really like comparing apples and oranges.

Of course... I wasn't comparing the two. I was comparing the Imperial Stouts with other Imperial Stouts, like Lagunitas and SA... love the malty flavor of those two, and thought the Rasputin was kind of plain in comparison.

The Organic Chocolate Stout is all chocolate.... really good stuff.

frankotank 01-10-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9302712)
Oh, I'll be able to get Hopslam. I don't ever sweat finding beers. If I don't get six packs myself, others help me out or I can just drink it on tap, which is best anyway.

I have some good relationships with liquor store employees around town.

yes, much better on tap. doesn't last for very long at the saucer.
wish I had somebody to hook me up with some hopslam. :rolleyes:

PhillyChiefFan 01-10-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by malachi47000 (Post 9301420)
drinking 1554 from the new belgium brewing company tonight...........so delicious!

Good Choice. Hadn't ever tried it until I went to New Belgium this past August and I couldn't get enough of it.

phisherman 01-10-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9303370)
yes, much better on tap. doesn't last for very long at the saucer.
wish I had somebody to hook me up with some hopslam. :rolleyes:

Hit me up via PM after it's out and I'll see if I can help you out.

frankotank 01-10-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9303415)
Hit me up via PM after it's out and I'll see if I can help you out.

:toast:

kregger 01-10-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9303415)
Hit me up via PM after it's out and I'll see if I can help you out.

now you're in my ballpark. My favorite beer to date.

kregger 01-10-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9302739)
Also, though Hopslam is highly sought after, I'm a little more excited this year about Bell's releasing their Black Note stout in 4 packs and KC will actually see some of it.

Definitely have my eye out for this...

phisherman 01-12-2013 11:37 PM

Had a Founders 2011 Kentucky Breakfast Stout at Waldo Pizza tonight. Wow. So, so delicious.

Phobia 01-12-2013 11:40 PM

Had Mothers Holy Mole tonight. Ummmm, pass.

phisherman 01-12-2013 11:50 PM

Ska's Mole Stout has been the only mole beer that I've liked in a long time.

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2013 11:51 PM

Sorry if these have been mentioned before. If you're talking about beers to try, Great Lakes has some ridiculously good ones. The Christmas Ale is usually in limited stock and people go nuts about it, especially if you sprinkle a little cinnamon on it.

Dr. Gigglepants 01-19-2013 10:07 AM

Went to the Beir Station last night in Waldo. Tried the Green Flash Imperial IPA, was delicious. It's a brewery from San Diego, maybe Buck can tell us more about it, I haven't heard of it.

But the Beir Station, it's half bar, half liquor store. They have a wall of coolers, with a great selection, actually great doesn't even do it justice. If you're a beer lover, this place was made for you. You can buy 6 packs or single bottles, you can take them with you or take them to the bar and they pour it for you.

Forgive me if it's not a new concept, but I was pretty blown away by the place.

Just overrun with hipsters though, so be warned.

phisherman 01-19-2013 10:13 AM

They poached the beer manager from Royal Liquors, Brad. Really good beer selection, especially on their taps.

Green Flash has some very fine beers; their Rayon Vert is one of my favorites.

Zebedee DuBois 01-19-2013 10:13 AM

Have a Rasputin recipe fermenting in the basement - with some coffee added and also some lactose. More of a Rasputin coffee milk stout. OG = 1.094

phisherman 01-19-2013 10:15 AM

Oh, also, tried the Lugene milk chocolate stout by Odell last night. Delicious.

ChiefBoyRDEE 01-19-2013 10:17 AM

so much great beer out there

is there a BBQ thread in here somewhere? you guys are the experts so i'm thinking i can learn something

Fairplay 01-19-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBoyRDEE (Post 9332865)
is there a BBQ thread in here somewhere? you guys are the experts so i'm thinking i can learn something




No one has ever made a BBQ thread, that's a good idea

ChiefBoyRDEE 01-19-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9332870)
No one has ever made a BBQ thread, that's a good idea

well then, someone make one, i want to learn more about KC BBQ

NewChief 01-19-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBoyRDEE (Post 9332883)
well then, someone make one, i want to learn more about KC BBQ

They're ****ing with you. Here's one of the larger threads on the subject, but there are about 10,000 of them:
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...icial+barbecue

ChiefBoyRDEE 01-19-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9332890)
They're ****ing with you. Here's one of the larger threads on the subject, but there are about 10,000 of them:

fair shout, i thought it was strange


i can't give Fairplay a + as i'm not allowed but here ya go man


:clap::clap::clap:

Third Eye 01-22-2013 05:59 PM

Hopslam hit the shelves in St. Louis today. I figure some people will be interested in that knowledge.

PhillyChiefFan 01-22-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 9342358)
Hopslam hit the shelves in St. Louis today. I figure some people will be interested in that knowledge.

Yep!! Finishing up Founders Breakfast Stout tonight and getting some Hopslam tomorrow.

KCUnited 01-22-2013 06:04 PM

Just popped a Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye for the MU game. Grabbed some Lagunitas Sucks while I was at the store.

Hopslam hits the shelf on Friday at my store.

phisherman 01-22-2013 06:08 PM

Got some Lagunitas Sucks today as well. It doesn't suck.

the Talking Can 01-22-2013 06:11 PM

tried boulevard's IPA for the first time

it was tasty and balanced, i thought....i was too high to really notice anything particular about it

Shag 01-24-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9342393)
Got some Lagunitas Sucks today as well. It doesn't suck.

Put down a growler of that over the weekend. Excellent brew...

WV 01-24-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 9342358)
Hopslam hit the shelves in St. Louis today. I figure some people will be interested in that knowledge.

They don't distribute this far east. :huh:

RyFo18 01-24-2013 10:29 PM

If you can get your hands on Founder's Red's Rye PA, drink it.

Shag 01-24-2013 10:29 PM

For you Iowa guys, you should seek out some Toppling Goliath - they make some great beers, particularly IPAs. The Golden Nugget and Pseudo Sue are both great...

phisherman 01-25-2013 09:57 AM

If you wanted HopSlam and were planning on getting it from HyVee in Blue Springs, don't try. I got it all. Bwahahahahahaha!!!1!!11

KCUnited 01-25-2013 10:16 AM

Got my Hopslam at Gomer's South. They got 34 cases and said it won't last the day.

RyFo18 01-25-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9350112)
Got my Hopslam at Gomer's South. They got 34 cases and said it won't last the day.

Greatest beer. Ever.

phisherman 01-25-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9350119)
Greatest beer. Ever.

That's pushing it just a bit. It's good, but greatest ever? Meh. I like Heady Topper and Pliny better (for IIPAs or DIPAs that is).

DMAC 01-25-2013 10:46 AM

If you pay 20 bucks for a sixer, of course you are going to say it's the best beer ever.

phisherman 01-25-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9350213)
If you pay 20 bucks for a sixer, of course you are going to say it's the best beer ever.

I paid less than that. And it's still not the greatest beer ever. Some of my absolute favorites are pretty reasonable actually.


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