apparently Notre Dame is trying to squeeze some academic things out of the Big 10 to join.

The only schools Texas cares about are the ones found in Texas.

Big 8 would have gone under without Texas. :rolleyes:

You get a new conference...Grab teams from Conference USA...Houston, #4 TV market...Memphis, big TV market...Tulane, the New Orleans TV market...SMU, Dallas market. All schools in the same region, and then you go find two or four others looking for bigger TV deals.

We're at least causing them bloating and discomfort.

Nick Wright had Dan Wetzel on and he just called him Dan Beebe twice to end the show #fail

Apparently, Kansans need to begin begging.

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/...ll_politicians

Even if KSU didnt exist, KU would not be getting into the Big 10. No football and no major media market. Basketball is nice but it's not on the same planet as football in terms of monetary value for the conference.
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you're entitled to your opinion

This has NOTHING to do with basketball. ZILCH. If it even had a fracture of a hair to do anything with BBall, NU wouldn't even be in the picture. They are THE worst B12 program, and one of the worst in the NCAA history. That should tell you how much that means to the equation. It's football and TV Market, of which ku adds, again, ZILCH.

I fully recognize this, as a KSU fan, and realize we might just be ****ed. However, it's not because of ku, their lack of appeal, and your shitty football history. It's because of KSU's shitty football history and our lack of National Football appeal. We are in the in a similar boat, but KSU isn't manning this Titanic. Your football program (or lack thereof) and lack of a TV market have steered you into this iceberg in the same way KSU will hit that same iceberg.

And laugh out loud at your KSU isn't a BCS conference level school comment. Again, this is football related, not basketball. Therefore, your suck is = to our suck:D

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...70202/22395511

"...just keep the baby out of the street!"/Boys in the Hood

whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.

It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.

KU sucks cawk nobody cares about KU outside of Kansas.

KU does not have a football program that would be a credit to a major conference. They had one run break up decades of futility and now are back to the doldrums. It was a nice Cinderella story but no one is going to mistake that program for a major conf. caliber program. The already have bottom feeders like Michigan State and Indiana, Illinois, etc.

This is about football and football, and also football.
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Your Football Program compared to KSU's? ROFL I'm sure that makes you sleep better at night.

Since we are talking about football here, and relevance, how about KU's B12 Conference Championships, or even your ability to get to a North Title game?:evil:

On a separate note, wasn't the KSU-KU basketball game in Manhattan ESPN's most watched TV game this year? I don't have a link, but thought I had heard that.

Still splits it, though.

Shit I thought you were a KU fan all this time.

Define dominates? There are 3 college teams that are closely followed in the KC market, and maybe even a 4th (with NU). I think you are bastardizing the term "dominates".

:Lin:

LMAO

Dominate? Please.

There is the part that is not being talked about in the short term but will pay off as many if not more benefits as the athletics to the schools joining the B10. Props for seeing beyond the obvious.

Have you read any specifics as to what that might be?

The residents of Lincoln voted to pass a new basketball arena. This probably played a part for any future football national championship celebrations at Nebraska.

http://www.denverpost.com/sportsnews...809?source=rss

Wow...you just don't understand life.
KU has no real TV market.
NU gives visiting teams more money from a football game than KU would make.
Academics...KSU has more Rhodes and Truman Scholars than KU.

This is set up just like the state of Michigan.

i said the "in recent years" for football ... but i suppose with KSU the ability to read is suspect.

KSU football has sucked since Bill Snyder left and didn't stop sucking until Bill Snyder returned.

joke all you want ... truth is truth

basketball KU > KSU
t.v. market KU > KSU
academically KU > KSU
football KU = KSU (not historically, but right now. Yes, KSU seems to be trending up and KU seems to be trending down)

for a BCS conference, KU is a crown jewel in Basketball and middle of the road school to beat upon in football. Middle ground t.v. market and solid academically.

in Bill Snyders prime he brought KSU to the BCS level in football but beyond that KSU just doesn't make it to a BCS level in anything.

Umm, it's about football and TV sets. As long as you have either or, you're invited.

Didn't Kstates basketball team make it further then Ku's? Mizzou has gone further the last few years as well. You think anyone outside of Kansas remembers KU's title or do they remember them losing to Bucknell, Bradley, and Northern Iowa?

KU Chancellor urges Nebraska to stay

There isn't anything in that article I could argue with.

So naive...

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Thats why all the big confrences haven't invited Kansas.

Look, I can't maintain this discussion with you if you can't divorce yourself of this notion that basketball matters in this equation. If you can, then:

TV Market: Equal
Academically: KU, but ONLY because you have a Law School and Med School - beyond that, there is NOTHING superior about your academic status compared to KSU's relative to the individual Colleges themselves. When you want a top of the line Engineer, Architect or Bus grad, you go to KSU over KU. When you want a philanthropic Liberal Arts blowhard, you go to larryville:D
Football: We've had more recent success, but I'd say historically equal.

Nobody gives two shits about KU Football other than KU fans. Deal with it.

Really?

billay, you should hush, adults are talking. This is a little above your level of understanding.

Made it further the last few years?

Well, except for no final fours and no titles ever I guess your correct.

Don't worry, one day you'll get that tourney win.

academic ranking of National Public Universities

------------ CCAP, NSNWR
Mizzou Univ - 13, 42
colorado uni - 19,35
ohio state --- 20, 19
Kansas Univ - 22, 38
Oklahoma U - 27, 52
Kansas state - 55, 62
Nebraska ----- 62, 42

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030_4.html

I've never seen anyone on either coast with a Nebraska shirt on.

Maybe a fat tourist but no regular people. At least not since 1994.

I have. There is a radio station in Phoenix that broadcasts the Husker football games every Saturday.
Nebraska's football program has 100x the national presence of anything out of KS or MO.
When it comes to alma mater smack you should probably stick to either basketball or basketball or maybe basketball because you have absolutely nothing else.

Still better than Iowa, brah. Wait, you guys have wrestling just like MU, right?

Well yea I guess they have more of a presence than Iowa.

Iowa's football program brings more money in to the University and conference than KU's basketball program I bet. Just thinking.
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:D KU butthurting today.

Huh? What does that have to do with anything?

Just so I have this straight, what college team do you follow?

I thought we were discussing national presence?

Iowa football is an event in Iowa City.

You saying KU has a bigger national football presence than Iowa? Or anyone for that matter?

Missouri has more in common with Iowa than Kansas has with Iowa.
That's one of the reasons of manyfor why Mizzou is a better fit for the Big Ten.

Listen to the man. He's been on the Iowa bandwagon for six whole months now.

"That f'ing Kietzman!!!"... oh wait.

Are you reeruned or just pretending? Iowa has no national presence in anything. KU has national presence in basketball. And even though BB doesn't matter when compared to football, it's still better than NOTHING. Hope that helped.

Don't you mean "in recent year"?

Just becasue your school has no football program is no reason to be ignorant of college football in general. I get that recent events have made KU fan a little bitter but come on, you really don't know anything about Iowa football?

lol

Nobody outside of Iowa knows anything about Iowa football.

I know you won the last Orange Bowl, that's about it. There are only a few national powerhouses in football and Iowa is not one of them. There are only a few national powerhouses in basketball and KU is one of them.

what are you talking about? they have ended the season ranked 5 out of the last 10 years. they won a BCS bowl last year - the same one KU fans are so fond of crowing about. They are 5-3 in bowl games in the last decade. And, most media have them around #10 preseason for 2010.

This is hilaritarded, and I have no affiliation or affinity for Iowa.
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Isn't this the same argument you make for ku football?

ROFL KU guy is sad and getting sadder. This whole nobody-wants-us thing is really getting to some of you.

Alright, I'll not argue with the redheaded step children any longer.

Thread over/

I know you guys got Christian Ballard from Lawrence Free State!

He's good

Leave them alone man, they are apparently in deep state of butthurt.

I make no arguments for KU football. The only times I bring up the Orange Bowl is when I'm discussing our relative schools' successes. I have no illusions about KU's national standing in football.

How am I supposed to know?

You asked where I got the numbers. There they are.

And FWIW, if you want to classify the claims of a man who's been involved in TV negotiations with NBC in the past, and says the reported number is low, be my guest.

I don't see a reason not to take his word for it. He's been closer to it than anyone who ever written anything on the subject.

Hell, here's a quote that says NBC pays ND $15M:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/sp...1sandomir.html

Id the New York Times a legit enough source for you?

Hey fanboy, if Iowa goes back in the toilet, will you revert to being a full time Bronco troll again?

Shouldn't you be concentrating on getting tantric so you don't throw up while banging your fat chicks?

You either haven't read any of my posts or you're just saying this because you have no logical come back from what I said. Or both. You can laugh all you want, I'm not bitter or jaded about any of this, I realize money rules the world and I understand the reasons behind B10 extending (or about to extend) invites to MU and Nebraska. I won't let you make reeruned statements without calling you out, however.

One source you quote says $9million, one says $15 million, somehow somewhere you came up with a figure for $28 million.
Which is it?
http://citationmachine.net/

Sure.

Then they'll be waiting a while, IMO.

I'm with DeArmond on this one. The ONLY way Notre Dame goes anywhere is if it's to a super-conference. They aren't going alone.

I think you and badgirl should hook up. You're both obsessed with fat people.

pot, kettle and black

:spock: I've never called anyone out for being fat.

I guess playing second fiddle to OSU and Michigan for, well forever and then having recent success makes you a national brand. I don't know shit about Iowa's history, well because they're Iowa.

Re-read what I bolded.

You jump in on EVERY conversation that says something about fat, or a fat girl. It's like a bulletin board pheromone for you.

I want it known right here and now, that I'm proud to be the anchor attached to the neck of KU fans as they slide briskly into the icy waters, thrashing for air, attempting to loosen the purple chains and cinderblocks that bind them, until one final gasp for air results in lungs full of water and death takes hold.

I had no idea the sway that KSU holds over their little brother. Complete and total ownership.

Let the epitaph read:

KU, we hardly <strike>knew ye</strike> cared.

No, seriously, pussy, what happens if both your teams go to hell at the same time? For years all we heard about was Denver, but then they take a dive and all of a sudden you're Mr. Iowa! I realize that as a gutless, pathetic internet troll, you apparently need to feel that you assert some sort of superiority over all us people that you'll never summon the courage to meet, so I just wonder what the next phase will be. This MY ORANGE BOWL IS BETTER THAN YOUR ORANGE BOWL!!! thing is rather amusing. LMAO What's next? Perhaps you'll suddenly reveal that you've always been a life-long Yankees fan!