Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 12991243)

The Traverse is a big pile of monkey shit. Ours was a poorly designed lemon. We had oil leaking in our driveway. The dealer asked if we had recently had the oil changed. He said that explains it. The stupid frame rails are right under the oil drain plug and the oil collects there. He said if they don't mop it all up it drips everywhere. He said it's a total asspain to clean it up and they never get it all. Nice design dicks. Then there was a recall on the rotors for the Acadia. We had an issue with ours. Except no recall on Traverse rotors. Same ****ing car! **** you GM. Last straw was leaky defective steering rack. Not covered under warranty. How the **** does a steering rack go bad at 22,000 miles? I'll tell you, shit design and crappy workmanship. When the dealer listens to you complain and just nods his head and says "yup", you know your car is a piece of shit. Thank God it's gone. Feel sorry for the ****ers who have it now, although I'm sure it's been crushed by now.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12991334)

All the shit you're talking isn't new. There is a post in the "cockamamie hog shot that pisses you off" thread with me ranting about how it takes a special tool to pull the oil filter on my wife's Buick. My buddy bought an escape that needed a cam (!) at 45000 mikes that ford knew about but wouldn't do a recall on. My brother in law has a year old dodge that needed injectors and a starter before 75000. Not new. Not chevy.

If you want to get really pissed drop 300 large on a Deere unit that won't go. That will make you want to club baby seals. Big thing is not just that you need a ride from work, but you also cant make money. And Deere is so proud of their shot that you get a whole year of warranty. Run some Deere stuff and and all this car business won't even register on your pissed-off-meter.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991340)

So what we have here is a bunch of old bald dudes with goatees sitting around talking mini vans now. Am I right or am I right?

:D

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12991238)

"Thrill" got nothing to do with it at this point.

All I'm looking for is the least ugly, most interesting of a bad lot of faceless crossovers. None of them look worth a damn. They're all overpriced because the market is insane on them. Meanwhile I could get a !@#$ing Charger hellcat for $14K under sticker because God hates parents.

But the Traverse is the least ugly, at least until the Ascent comes out. All the rest of them are minivans (Pilot), bricks (Explorer and Atlas) or designed by assholes that think nobody wants leather and a middle bench (Highlander). Or they're just riding around on an old platform and last gen tech (4-runner...Ugh, I wish Toyota would spend a little money refreshing that thing; love 'em).

The Volvo is too nice and too expensive to bother with now that it's just going to be covered in vomit for the next 18 months. And a lease until the new '19 explorer and ascent comes out doesn't get me around the whole 'eat shit on the first year value loss' thing; a 1 yr lease might as well be setting money on fire.

So I'll just push it as long as I can and see if I can fit some narrow-ass car seats in a Sonata. Or put the convertable in the front and turn the airbag off. If my vehicle is hauling children, it's just to daycare and back.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12991166)

Not enough cargo space behind the 2nd row. 3 kids, 3 labs.

I'm stuck with the Atlas, is the long and short of it. Or the Explorer. I could try to wait until the new Ascent comes out from Subaru; it's a sexy looking beast and Subaru is destroying in market share right now (showing growth across every segment) but those twins are coming and I don't expect the Ascent gets here before they do. Or I could hope that Ford gets the new Explorer out soon but that also seems unlikely.

May just trade my sedan in for an older SUV that I can putz around in for a year until I trade it out for something that comes along in the fall of '18. Again - **** you Chevy. Just **** you right in the face.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12991238)

"Thrill" got nothing to do with it at this point.

All I'm looking for is the least ugly, most interesting of a bad lot of faceless crossovers. None of them look worth a damn. They're all overpriced because the market is insane on them. Meanwhile I could get a !@#$ing Charger hellcat for $14K under sticker because God hates parents.

But the Traverse is the least ugly, at least until the Ascent comes out. All the rest of them are minivans (Pilot), bricks (Explorer and Atlas) or designed by assholes that think nobody wants leather and a middle bench (Highlander). Or they're just riding around on an old platform and last gen tech (4-runner...Ugh, I wish Toyota would spend a little money refreshing that thing; love 'em).

The Volvo is too nice and too expensive to bother with now that it's just going to be covered in vomit for the next 18 months. And a lease until the new '19 explorer and ascent comes out doesn't get me around the whole 'eat shit on the first year value loss' thing; a 1 yr lease might as well be setting money on fire.

So I'll just push it as long as I can and see if I can fit some narrow-ass car seats in a Sonata. Or put the convertable in the front and turn the airbag off. If my vehicle is hauling children, it's just to daycare and back.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991340)

So what we have here is a bunch of old bald dudes with goatees sitting around talking mini vans now. Am I right or am I right?

:D

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12991307)

I dont know of any vehicle that would be out of warranty at 22k miles. Unless it's over 6 years old

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12991533)

Thinnin' ain't bald.

And I couldn't grow a goatee if my life depended on it.

But yes.

That all being said, I think I can slap the motor from a Durango R/T in a Durango Summit and get a pretty quick but tricked out soccer shuttle that looks mostly like a (kinda) truck and doesn't have the bland character of every other boring-ass unibody out there. Problem is that I have to order it because every single one I can find on a lot with leather and the big motor has (you guessed it) ****ing captains chairs.

When the hell did minivan seats become a status symbol? What the ****? Why is it assumed that 'nice = captains chairs'? Dicks. Every domestic manufacturer in the country is a dick. Oh well, at least Dodge gives me the option of getting a bench.

**** you again, Chevy. God dammit.

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 12991600)

It wasn't out of warranty, it just wasn't covered under warranty. Total bullshit. I could understand if I was taking it offroading or competing in monster truck jumping. Anyway, that piece of shit is out of my life and I have done my duty to warn others about the shitstain that is the Chevy Traverse.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12991614)

soneone bullshitted you. Rack and pinion had always been covered up to 36k or 5 years iirc.

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12992643)

I thought we where talking about racecars in here.

Got me a new pair of shoes~

15x10 Darkstars w/28 inch tall MT ET Streets paired with 17x4.5 skinnies

just a quick pic with it crammed in garage but man it looks better and now we know it will hook~

http://i.imgur.com/8a9FGM8l.jpg

That 9 inch goes in next week, car will be down for a few days since we are going to have to measure for the new driveshaft etc.

RACE CARS > MINIVANS

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12992643)

I thought we where talking about racecars in here.

Got me a new pair of shoes~

15x10 Darkstars w/28 inch tall MT ET Streets paired with 17x4.5 skinnies

just a quick pic with it crammed in garage but man it looks better and now we know it will hook~

http://i.imgur.com/8a9FGM8l.jpg

That 9 inch goes in next week, car will be down for a few days since we are going to have to measure for the new driveshaft etc.

RACE CARS > MINIVANS