Pioli has actually pissed off the fans
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Kraft has worked, for sure. He has gotten lucky but you kinda need to be win in sports.

can you tell me how robt kraft was able to afford to buy and operate the new england patriots? where did kraft get his $$$$???

Good points, but he didn't need to wait this long to say things aren't going to stay the way they are. He's got an office and Pioli's not in a position, and hasn't been since year-2, to argue against some changes. He could have called SP and TH into his office and told SP that he's heard a lot of shit, and rumors notwithstanding, events like the gum wrapper and blinds and other such crap has lead him to think that the balance of power is officially changing. He may not tell them that TH was getting final say, but he sure could have said that he'd be the final decision maker (and he'd confer with TH just prior to announcing his final decision). Hindsight is 20/20, but living in Dallas sure made seeing all of this a LOT harder.

Had he tried that, what would SP had been able to do, go to the union?

How do you know what he ****ing hasdone behind closed doors?
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The Patriots didn't win a title for the first 8 years of Kraft's ownership of the team.

Kraft had nothing to do with Brady. Nor did Belichick or Pioli.

The guy who got the Pats Tom Brady was Dick Rehbein, their QBs coach, who gave Brady glowing reviews.

When Clark took over, he wanted to totally change the culture, which was probably needed, but not to the extent that happened.

The culture that was going down, obviously wasn't working so Clark made a change, wholesale changes to the franchise from the top down.

He could have stayed status quo and lined his pockets. But he didn't.

and so, what? you are here to say clark is not responsible for this?

pioli wasn't here the last time a GM "pissed off the fans" but hey, there was a clark in the mix.

how many more staff changes will it take before you get pissed at the ownership?

I've already reached my threshold. clark is a crap owner in my book. he threw away the QB position with Matty C and in turn wasted years, he threw away the catalyst of positive change when he fired Haley and he is on board with the crapfest that is Scott Pioli, who is the engineer of this train wreck.

Well, setting aside the fact that team went from the cellar to a playoff team that made a SB appearance, plus the fact he did actually win all those championships, what is your point? That I should hold off on clark until year eight?

well, don't you wish clark had a "Dick Rehbein" on the staff. That is my point. Clark has made some choices here, it is certainly debatable whether those choices are good, but his record and your disappointment for this team are not debatable. All I'm saying is, clark is no robt kraft. he's not even lamar. hell, the hunt fam became rich from a guy named HL Hunt folks. clark's grand dad.

My point, you dipshit, is that you dumbasses keep pointing to Kraft as the standard.

He didn't find immediate success.

It took time, and the luck of stumbling onto an elite QB.

be honest for once -- do you think clark hunt can put a NFL winner together? ever? How long would you give him?

I am not using kraft as the standard, just one example. hell, this started with the whole JJ comparison.

F***************** 1.6 five year plans later!!!!!

the GM puts the team together. Not the owner
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