2 of those wins were damn near miracles. You want to bet on Rivers fumbling another snap? How about the ****ing Raiders playing a QB who was posting on BengalsPlanet the Monday before?

Say it: Haley was a ****ing joke. Say it and we'll back off.

We would have easily made the playoffs had we had a average QB such as Orton this year. I can think of 3 games we probably win that we lost....SD #1, Denver #1 and Pittsburgh.


I don't get what your argument is? One time you are saying Cassel is good enough and the other you are saying he isn't. WTF is it?

What do you mean a "regular schedule"?

We played the schedule put in front of us.

This season if orton had played all 16 games I believe we would have made the playoffs, even with the injuries
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I've said multiple times that it was a huge mistake the first two games. Like I said, it's ridiculous to dwell on 2 games when the coach got more out of the next 14 games than many coaches would have gotten out of 16.

But the fact of the matter is that for the next umpteen games, the ONLY reason the Chiefs were competitive was because coaching turned an average roster into a decent one.

Without Jamaal Charles and Berry, this team had no business making the playoffs. They didn't have enough talent. And that's not because of coaching. And it starts with a HUGE whiff on the GM at the QB position.

Yeah, Orton was nails, putting up a shit ton of points and all.

Yes. I absolutely believe that. But whose fault is that? The coach's? Or the front office that forced Haley to play with a coach that was half of Orton, an average QB's, ability?

Lol.
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Well the schedule he played against was a regular season schedule. WTF?

you just said not one person here could say that, but you could?

Are you ok tonight? You didn't fall and hit your head today did you?

Haley wasn't forced to do anything, if he didn't like it he could have walked.
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The Chiefs were a much better team under Orton than under Cassel.

Period.

And Orton isn't even a great QB. He's average. But the QB isn't important. So Haley should have won behind a QB who wasn't even close to as good as an average QB like Orton.

Ok.

Let's fire every coach that has 2 bad games in 3 years.

The Giants should have fired Tom Coughlin multiple teams. He lost his team worse than Haley several times over his career.

A coach that got the most out of a team for the next 14 games??? Are you on the crystal? Are you suckin' back grandpa's cough medicine? Haley was only here for the next 11 games for one. Secondly he managed tot lose back-back games at home when we had a chance to take 1st place to ourselves and then won a miracle Monday night game. Proceeded to get ass blasted by NE, pulled out a hail mary against Chicago, refused to bench Palko during the Steelers game after throwing 3 pics, 2 back-back and then threw a temper tantrum on the field and for the first time im my life got a penalaty called on a Chiefs coach for unsportsmanlike. Yea, he really got the most out of our team alright!

The schedule the Chiefs played in 2010 was the easiest in the league.

Don't play this game.

I'm laughing because you didn't think this team was talented enough to make the playoffs without charles, berry.

Tell me, what spectacular plays did we run that made haley this genious?
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No one is saying the Chiefs weren't a better team under Orton. That doesn't excuse Haley from his list of fail. My God man, even the Raiders had the balls the throw Palmer in a game in his 1st week. We waited, waited, waited some more and instead of starting Orton threw him on on some stupid trick play and got him hurt. All the while Palko continued to stink up the joint with Stanzi just sitting there and Haley refusing to play him.

Stellar coaching job.