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aturnis 01-01-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265663)
I'm going off the rails. I'm not the one defending a relic.

He isn't a good GM. Glad you admitted that.

GUESS WHAT GENIUS?

That's exactly the role he'll be expected to take in KC.

He's also SIXTY ****ING FIVE years old, and his last trip in the NFL was a goddamn tire fire.

You keep ignoring Cleveland, like it didn't happen.

We hire Holmgren, what are we more likely to get?

1990's Green Bay Holmgren?

Or three years ago Cleveland?

Nobody ever said KC's GM wouldn't acquire the players on the field... Not to my knowledge. My understanding is the coach would report to Clark, and he and the GM would likely work together on player acquisition.

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9265683)
Green Bay hasn't had a 100-yard rusher in 43 games. New England has averaged almost 40 passes per game over the last few years. So has New Orleans.

This isn't 1995 and building a team like they built around Aikman isn't possible.

The game absolutely IS pass, pass, pass. And on the flip side, it's sack, sack, sack.

You need a QB and pass rushers. Hit on both at the same time and you're a Super Bowl champion.

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FloridaMan88 01-01-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9265666)
You were not privy to their meeting so kick rocks. Marty played in the league, was a good coach for three different teams and would give Clark good advice.

Marty made it public that he told Clark to be patient with Fat Scott and Romeo.

Get your facts straight, dumbshit.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9265703)
Marty made it public that he told Clark to be patient with Fat Scott and Romeo.

Get your facts straight, dumbshit.

Yeah. so they could get us the number one pick.

Great advice.
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DeezNutz 01-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265695)
Nobody ever said KC's GM wouldn't acquire the players on the field... Not to my knowledge. My understanding is the coach would report to Clark, and he and the GM would likely work together on player acquisition.

What part of the equation is Clark hiring first? Then this person will have say about the GM hire.

50-50 my ass. Clark isn't so stupid to believe that he's really going to resolve debates about personnel. To use another Seinfeld line, the HC is going to have hand in this relationship.

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265695)
Nobody ever said KC's GM wouldn't acquire the players on the field... Not to my knowledge. My understanding is the coach would report to Clark, and he and the GM would likely work together on player acquisition.

Connect the dots, FFS.

If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, etc...

Who becomes the GM?

Who wants to put their job security in the hands of a guy like Dirk Koetter?

Flip side - he hires a retread like Cowher, Billick or Gruden - all guys that want total control.

The GM is going to be a cap/contract guy, and nothing more.

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265707)
What part of the equation is Clark hiring first? Then this person will have say about the GM hire.

50-50 my ass. Clark isn't so stupid to believe that he's really going to resolve debates about personnel. To use another Seinfeld line, the HC is going to have hand in this relationship.

Beat me to it.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265663)
I'm going off the rails. I'm not the one defending a relic.

He isn't a good GM. Glad you admitted that.

GUESS WHAT GENIUS?

That's exactly the role he'll be expected to take in KC.

He's also SIXTY ****ING FIVE years old, and his last trip in the NFL was a goddamn tire fire.

You keep ignoring Cleveland, like it didn't happen.

We hire Holmgren, what are we more likely to get?

1990's Green Bay Holmgren?

Or three years ago Cleveland?

He built a super bowl team with two different teams. Both from scratch. We don't know what he could have done with a guy like weeden. But his value is how he coaches guys on the field, not the gm chess game. I am not ignoring Cleveland. I hate coaches who are GMs. And there is a difference between him running the scouting network in Cleveland versus in Kansas city, where his job is to let his personnel guys do the heavy lifting in scouting. It doesn't reflect on what he could have done to coach up those same players better than shurmur did.

And you keep skipping Seattle like they were nothing. They made the super bowl and won lots of playoff games. His track record there was every bit as impressive as cowhers.

aturnis 01-01-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265710)
Connect the dots, FFS.

If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, etc...

Who becomes the GM?

Who wants to put their job security in the hands of a guy like Dirk Koetter?

Flip side - he hires a retread like Cowher, Billick or Gruden - all guys that want total control.

The GM is going to be a cap/contract guy, and nothing more.

Job security wouldn't be tied to coaching. Look what's going on right now?! Look at the Steelers.

DeezNutz 01-01-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9265717)
He built a super bowl team with two different teams. Both from scratch. We don't know what he could have done with a guy like weeden. But his value is how he coaches guys on the field, not the gm chess game. I am not ignoring Cleveland. I hate coaches who are GMs. And there is a difference between him running the scouting network in Cleveland versus in Kansas city, where his job is to let his personnel guys do the heavy lifting in scouting. It doesn't reflect on what he could have done to coach up those same players better than shurmur did.

And you keep skipping Seattle like they were nothing. They made the super bowl and won lots of playoff games. His track record there was every bit as impressive as cowhers.

Have Clark call me, please.

Brock 01-01-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9265717)

And you keep skipping Seattle like they were nothing. They made the super bowl and won lots of playoff games. His track record there was every bit as impressive as cowhers.

They won 4. In 10 years.

aturnis 01-01-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265707)
What part of the equation is Clark hiring first? Then this person will have say about the GM hire.

50-50 my ass. Clark isn't so stupid to believe that he's really going to resolve debates about personnel. To use another Seinfeld line, the HC is going to have hand in this relationship.

Doesn't Have say of the GM hire. Has say in Pioli's fate. Never said they'd have a say in his replacement. Although it would make sense. Say in who you want getting your groceries.

dirk digler 01-01-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265707)
What part of the equation is Clark hiring first? Then this person will have say about the GM hire.

50-50 my ass. Clark isn't so stupid to believe that he's really going to resolve debates about personnel. To use another Seinfeld line, the HC is going to have hand in this relationship.

The new GM might be already working for the Chiefs, wouldn't surprise me at all of a promotion from within.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265689)
Sounds like you like what he says as a media guy if you choose wisely.

Let's trust his record as a HC, not his rhetoric.

Deez, I don't buy fluff. But he spent a week studying with chip Kelly to understand their scheme. Almost became offensive coordinator there. He spent a whole summer watching high school offenses run the spread. Its not rhetoric. The guy has done his homework on the spread. Extensive homework. That is different from saying out loud during a game that he likes matt Cassel.

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9265726)
They won 4. In 10 years.

LMAO


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