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Ming the Merciless 09-02-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10873568)
That's a big if.

Oh for sure...

I acknowledge that 100%

But if the big if happens it will crush my soul

Tombstone RJ 09-02-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10873559)
Well, that's what makes the whole people dissing aaron murray so quickly thing hilarious.

Who drafted FOLES?

Andy knows qbs.

was that a Reid pick or a Roseman pick or both because Roseman has been the GM of the Eagles since 2010...

Mav 09-02-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10873591)
was that a Reid pick or a Roseman pick or both because Roseman has been the GM of the Eagles since 2010...

Reid I believe was calling all the shots at that time

htismaqe 09-02-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10873559)
Well, that's what makes the whole people dissing aaron murray so quickly thing hilarious.

Who drafted FOLES?

Andy knows qbs.

Nick Foles was a 3rd round pick and had big time measurables coming out. Huge difference between the 2 as draft prospects.

Exoter175 09-02-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10873547)
This franchise has infected you with ignorance.

And why's that? Because we have facts on the veteran, but don't have facts on the young guys?

Do you really think 1 super bowl makes a "good" QB, especially when he got carried by his team last year? ****, you could have put Brodie Croyle in the drivers seat instead of Wilson and won that championship. Their D and Special Teams was on fire.

And you really think the Foles thing isn't a fluke? Why didn't anybody snatch him up when he was getting shopped? Matt Cassel got picked up after a fluke season, probably a solid reason why.

Remember Matt Flynn? Shit rings a bell now, no?

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10873550)

I'm a dumbass for saying a proven veteran is better than two virtually unknown QB's that had a taste of success in a single season. Lets not blow our wads over this like New York did with Sanchez, The titans did with Vince, the Broncos did with Tebow, etc. etc. etc. There's been more "one and done" types in this league than there will ever be "serviceable vet" types like Alex Smith.

I realize you're mad about the franchise having shitty picks this year and overpaying Alex Smith, and having a tough schedule and losing 3/5ths of our starting offensive line in free agency, and yada yada yada, boo ****ing hoo.

Whether or not I like losing or like having to overpay a veteran QB is beyond the point here. This is Kansas City, a small market team whose only chance of success is to build a dynasty, not build a 1 and done team. That means not taking risks with your #1 pick until you've got the majority of your positions filled up with young talent on the rise.

This franchise is a solid 3 years behind everybody right now with being able to build a winning team. But what do we have for it? A star packed dynamic front 7 on defense, the youngest offensive line in football, the best running back in football, and a veteran QB who can manage the game with two very promising young QB's behind him.

That's how you build a dynasty, that's how you build a team.

New England did it, Green bay did it, San Francisco did it, Seattle did it, and Indianapolis did it (albeit because they got lucky).

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 10873567)
you think Nick foles is a better Qb than smith? lmao no team had a gameplan for him last season... foles is gonna throw more than what.. one int he had last year

Foles is going to have a ****ing HORRENDOUS year this year, bank on it.

Hammock Parties 09-02-2014 04:01 PM

Exoter, seek help.

Easy 6 09-02-2014 04:15 PM

Its possible that Exoters right about Foles this year, teams now have a years worth of tape on him and theres always that phenomenon known as the sophomore slump.

R8RFAN 09-02-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10873918)
Its possible that Exoters right about Foles this year, teams now have a years worth of tape on him and theres always that phenomenon known as the sophomore slump.

That sucker totally dismantled my Raiders last year...

Chronic 09-02-2014 04:20 PM

Derek is the best QB of this draft and will go on to have a pro bowl career- Remember, this kid was watching NFL films and defenses as a youngster with his brother- you go look at Carrs stats in 2011 when he played in a pro style offense and you'll know all you need to know-

Derek Carr will have a better career than Alex Smith ever dreamed to have- fact

Easy 6 09-02-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers (Post 10873927)
That sucker totally dismantled my Raiders last year...

He had a ridiculous year no doubt, and to be honest I dont see him slipping all that much... but it could happen.

Mav 09-02-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 10873934)
Derek is the best QB of this draft and will go on to have a pro bowl career- Remember, this kid was watching NFL films and defenses as a youngster with his brother- you go look at Carrs stats in 2011 when he played in a pro style offense and you'll know all you need to know-

Derek Carr will have a better career than Alex Smith ever dreamed to have- fact

NO.

First he plays for the raiders.

Second, blake bortles, and teddy bridgewater both are going to have very good careers.

While I don't think Derek is a scrub, he never played well in college against good teams.

But, I mean you go ahead and crown him.

Chronic 09-02-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10873953)
NO.

First he plays for the raiders.

Second, blake bortles, and teddy bridgewater both are going to have very good careers.

While I don't think Derek is a scrub, he never played well in college against good teams.

But, I mean you go ahead and crown him.

Did you see him at the senior bowl agaisnt the best players in the country? Dude lit them up-

Al Davis has been dead for 3 years- this aint the Raiders 5 years ago- Derek Carr has a fast release, poised in the pocket and throws accurate passes- he's 10x's the QB his brother ever thought he'd be- Derek Carr is gonna make a name for himself in the NFL- bank it

Kaepernick 09-02-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 10873239)
Who have they drafted exactly?

I said it was a start. Only time will tell how they have drafted since Al Davis died. They have 3 drafts since AA -- After Al. We shall see. I am not putting McKenzie with Ozzie Newsome or John Schneider. I said the organization is better and is starting to turn things around and I included the draft as an example of something Al Davis screwed up repeatedly.

R8RFAN 09-02-2014 05:00 PM

So...

I have to ask it... For the Chief fans

Would you start Carr in his first NFL game on the road in a hostile environment or wait til he got home against a friendly crowd?

Chronic 09-02-2014 05:02 PM

Reggie McKemzie only had 3 drafts- his 1st draft he didnt have a first pick till the end of rd 3.. last year was his first year having a full draft- His 2014 picks were money- Khalil Mack is a stud, Derek Carr is the best QB of this draft and 3rd rd pick guard Gabe Jackson is a beast- dude steam rolled the Seahawks #1 DL.. don't take my word for it- go look at the tape-- McKenzie hit a grand slam on his draft picks back in May


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