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Mecca 03-03-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16835650)
Recency bias.

In no way shape or form is it a good idea to do what Green Bay does. It worked for us this year but it's not a great strategy because honestly your margin for error becomes razor thin. The end of the Bengals game when Marcus Kemp is out there speaks to that.

htismaqe 03-03-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16835660)
In no way shape or form is it a good idea to do what Green Bay does. It worked for us this year but it's not a great strategy because honestly your margin for error becomes razor thin. The end of the Bengals game when Marcus Kemp is out there speaks to that.

Right.

All this season proved was that Mahomes CAN win with a bunch of middling guys.

That doesn't mean this season proved it was a good idea going forward.

This team should always be looking to improve, no matter what. Thankfully, that's Brett Veach's MO so we're all good.

BleedingRed 03-03-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16835670)
Right.

All this season proved was that Mahomes CAN win with a bunch of middling guys.

That doesn't mean this season proved it was a good idea going forward.

This team should always be looking to improve, no matter what. Thankfully, that's Brett Veach's MO so we're all good.

My exact thought process...

Like guys he would be the BEST WR he has ever had. Why the **** not, yes will we lose some guys? Sure but we have already LOST guys because of contracts.

What I think Hopkins can potentially provide is 2-3 year window of TRUE dominance on the offensive front.

We HAVE to capitilize on not just Mahomes window (Bigger) but Kelces window. We have 3-5 year left of top tier TE play.

Does ADDING HOPKINS allow Kelce to dominate a little longer?

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2023 12:32 PM

Derek Mason? ROFL

BleedingRed 03-03-2023 12:33 PM

It really is about maximizing Kelce's window...... And if adding a future HOF X-WR to take double off of him helps add to his longevity I want it.

Balto 03-03-2023 12:33 PM

I wonder if the Bucs would entertain trading Mike Evans?

BleedingRed 03-03-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16835691)
I wonder if the Bucs would entertain trading Mike Evans?

I wish Goodwin didn't get injured because I would have love to chase him

Balto 03-03-2023 12:40 PM

Was just thinking that Mike Evans could do some things that Kelce does to like you said help add longevity to him.

O.city 03-03-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16835660)
In no way shape or form is it a good idea to do what Green Bay does. It worked for us this year but it's not a great strategy because honestly your margin for error becomes razor thin. The end of the Bengals game when Marcus Kemp is out there speaks to that.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16835670)
Right.

All this season proved was that Mahomes CAN win with a bunch of middling guys.

That doesn't mean this season proved it was a good idea going forward.

This team should always be looking to improve, no matter what. Thankfully, that's Brett Veach's MO so we're all good.

I've been thinking about this lately, wasn't sure how to really quantify or express it, but you guys did a good job here.

Ideally, yeah, you keep drafting and having great drafts. It's just that it isn't feasible to continue to constantly hit like we did. If you get 2 or 3 starters out of a draft, that's a hell of a hit.

We also can't just keep asking Mahomes to be all time great kinda player every season. He's gonna likely do it, but at some point, you just have to keep weapons around him.

Mecca 03-03-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16835707)
I've been thinking about this lately, wasn't sure how to really quantify or express it, but you guys did a good job here.

Ideally, yeah, you keep drafting and having great drafts. It's just that it isn't feasible to continue to constantly hit like we did. If you get 2 or 3 starters out of a draft, that's a hell of a hit.

We also can't just keep asking Mahomes to be all time great kinda player every season. He's gonna likely do it, but at some point, you just have to keep weapons around him.

You'd also like that if he plays at an all time level the players around him make that a historic season like 5800 yards and 60 TD's.

BleedingRed 03-03-2023 01:00 PM

I also like having a vet WR in the WR room. Hopkins has never had beef with players to my knowledge.

Mentoring guys like Toney/Sky is something we need. MVS/JuJu don't have the same ability to pull those young guys in like Hopkins will.

Megatron96 03-03-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16835720)
I also like having a vet WR in the WR room. Hopkins has never had beef with players to my knowledge.

Mentoring guys like Toney/Sky is something we need. MVS/JuJu don't have the same ability to pull those young guys in like Hopkins will.

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Shit, we all want Toney to eventually be the WR1? No better mentor than a true WR1 like DHop, who just happens to have many of the exact same attributes/skillsets.

But nah, let’s not have Toney/Skyy learn from one of the best to ever do it, let’s just squander these formative years learning from MVS and the like. Makes sense.

Mecca 03-03-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16835724)
Shit, we all want Toney to eventually be the WR1? No better mentor than a true WR1 like DHop, who just happens to have many of the exact same attributes/skillsets.

Until Toney shows he can play a full season you can't just mark him down as reliable.

Megatron96 03-03-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16835727)
Until Toney shows he can play a full season you can't just mark him down as reliable.

So we don’t even try to maximize his potential/capabilities until we know for sure he’s going to be reliable? Really?

Mecca 03-03-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16835736)
So we don’t even try to maximize his potential/capabilities until we know for sure he’s going to be reliable? Really?

That's not what I said, you just can't count on it being there. It's basically a bonus because at this point you have no idea.


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