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cabletech94 07-31-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909149)
Thanks :D so the deadline is less than an hour at 3?

only minutes away.

anxiously awaiting a letdown.

isn't this where hamas would flip out?

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 6909154)
only minutes away.

anxiously awaiting a letdown.

isn't this where hamas would flip out?

Would like to see if we atleast trade farns hope something goes down

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:30 PM

30 minutes left (tictictictictictictictictic...)

cabletech94 07-31-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909157)
Would like to see if we atleast trade farns hope something goes down

realistically, farnsy is the most logical.

as much as i hate to say it too, he's actually become one i know can strike out the opposition (if you don't count last nite).

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:38 PM

yeah, the problem is we need one of the other 29 teams to look at Guillen and say "yeah... I want some of that".

The general consensus would be: "today, the Royals traded outfielder Jose Guillen to (team X) for...", (click) "I've seen enough, Royals won that trade"

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:44 PM

15 minutes

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/218...0990D26F33BECF

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:47 PM

by the way, if a trade does happen minutes before the deadline it might take a bit for a rumor to get tweeted out and 30-40 minutes or so to get announced. We won't really know that nothing happened until about an hour after the deadline.

Bowser 07-31-2010 01:47 PM

Guillen is like a bad case of luggage. Nobody wants it, and you just can't give it away.

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:48 PM

oh here's some Royals news. Aaron Crow has been demoted from AA back to Advanced-A Wilmington.

DeezNutz 07-31-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6909171)
Guillen is like a bad case of luggage. Nobody wants it, and you just can't give it away.

But I still feel great about the signing. /DM

DeezNutz 07-31-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909173)
oh here's some Royals news. Aaron Crow has been demoted from AA back to Advanced-A Wilmington.

Good sign for an advanced college arm with a year of "pro" experience.

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:51 PM

Crow's loss is Duffy's gain, Danny Duffy was promoted to Northwest Arkansas

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:54 PM

according to rumors, the Indians just dumped Kerry Wood onto the Yankees for about $1.5MM.

Why would anyone want Wood for a team making a postseason push?

alnorth 07-31-2010 01:56 PM

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SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909180)
according to rumors, the Indians just dumped Kerry Wood onto the Yankees for about $1.5MM.

Why would anyone want Wood for a team making a postseason push?

Thats a head scratcher dusty baker killed woods career

Demonpenz 07-31-2010 02:04 PM

Kerry Wood killed Kerry Woods career.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:07 PM

The 2010 trading deadline for players who do not pass waivers has passed. If the Royals made any last-second deals we should know soon. The rule is just that the teams had to have informed MLB of the deal by 5 minutes ago, nothing has to be announced right away.

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6909189)
Kerry Wood killed Kerry Woods career.

Well too bad i always hated woods

WilliamTheIrish 07-31-2010 02:07 PM

Sticking pins in the Jose Guillen doll right now.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:10 PM

Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth were both traded to the Braves in the last moments. No idea yet what we got.

Toadkiller 07-31-2010 02:13 PM

Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth to Braves. KC was asking for Gregor Blanco. Believe he's is going back to KC (From ESPN)

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909200)
Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth were both traded to the Braves in the last moments. No idea yet what we got.

Man DM and his love for braves talent

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:14 PM

Atlanta fans are going ape-s*** with anger.

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FRAAAAAAAAANNKKKKKKKKKK
WRRRREEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

you stupid s***
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This is the single worst trade I have ever seen.

Go f*** yourself Frank Wren, you lowlife piece of s*** GM.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909202)
Man DM and his love for braves talent

looks like 3 players? Blanco, Collins, and Chavez. looking them up now

SPchief 07-31-2010 02:16 PM

So we're gonna put meier in center in and Guillen in right and bring up kila right? :)

JoeyChuckles 07-31-2010 02:17 PM

Heard we got Tim Collins and Jesse Chavez plus one other for Ankiel and Farnsworth.

Toadkiller 07-31-2010 02:18 PM

The lefty that the Jays swapped to Atlanta in the Yunel Escobar deal is being flipped to the Royals.#trades

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909204)
looks like 3 players? Blanco, Collins, and Chavez. looking them up now

just looked them up. they all suck. what a surprise.

cabletech94 07-31-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909211)
just looked them up. they all suck. what a surprise.

what positions?

Mr. Arrowhead 07-31-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909211)
just looked them up. they all suck. what a surprise.

so did the guys we traded

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909211)
just looked them up. they all suck. what a surprise.

Tim Collins stats look good to me http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=collin004tim

I think Blanco is probably our new lead-off hitter also or am i wrong?

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 6909214)
what positions?

Gregor Blanco - outfielder. Career MLB stats: 531 at-bats, .252 AVG., 1 HR, 42 RBI. Yes, you are reading that correctly. They just got an outfielder that has 1 home run in 531 at-bats.

Jesse Chavez - right-handed relief pitcher. Career in MLB: 116 games, 4.92 ERA, 1.45 WHIP

Tim Collins - left-handed relief pitcher. Actually has good numbers in the minors. 2.35 ERA and 1.09 WHIP in 116 games. Still in AA right now.

teedubya 07-31-2010 02:26 PM

The Braves on Saturday filled a void in center field and added to their deep bullpen in a trade with the Royals, obtaining Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth.

Kansas City got reliever Jesse Chavez, outfielder Gregor Blanco and minor-league right-hander Tim Collins.

With Nate McLouth demoted to the minors and Melky Cabrera hitting .265, Ankiel can take over in center. He recently returned from a strained quadriceps that cost him more than two months and has four homers and 15 RBI in 92 at-bats this season.

Farnsworth is 3-0 with a 2.42 ERA in 37 appearances. He served as Atlanta's closer down the stretch in 2005 after coming over from Detroit. Chavez, 26, is 3-2 with a 5.89 ERA in 28 games.

Blanco was sent down July 21 but made 16 starts in center field for Atlanta this year and has a .252 average in 204 major-league games.

Collins, 20, went from Toronto to Atlanta in the Yunel Escobar-Alex Gonzalez deal earlier this month. He is just 5-foot-7 and 155 pounds but has 87 strikeouts in 51 innings at Double-A.

Basileus777 07-31-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909180)
Why would anyone want Wood for a team making a postseason push?

When the alternative is Chan Ho Park? They gave up nothing for him.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909220)
Tim Collins stats look good to me http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=collin004tim

I think Blanco is probably our new lead-off hitter also or am i wrong?

True, hopefully he will pan out, otherwise I don't see the point of this trade.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:27 PM

Gregor Blanco, CF, 0.670 OPS in very limited major-league AB, 0.733 in his minor-league career. Not excited about him at all.

Jesse Chavez, Relief RHP, over 1.4 WHIP in limited major-league innings, 1.315 WHIP in his triple-A career, about 2.5 BB/K in AAA. eh, not all that excited about him either.

Tim Collins, Relief AA LHP (we clearly dont have enough left-handed pitching. We have to have close to the most left-handed talent in baseball), 1.086 minor league WHIP, about 3.5 K/BB in the minors. However, he's gone nuts this year, 15.4 K/9 in AA. Wow, thats actually pretty good.

Looks to me like a very good B+/A- AA minor league lefty-relief pitching prospect and 2 very fringey AAA C-/D prospects. Braves fans seem emotionally attached to Blanco, but his stats really dont look special at all.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6909224)
Collins, 20, has 87 strikeouts in 51 innings at Double-A.

DAMN! Okay, maybe this trade will be alright after all.

JoeyChuckles 07-31-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909223)
Gregor Blanco - outfielder. Career MLB stats: 531 at-bats, .252 AVG., 1 HR, 42 RBI. Yes, you are reading that correctly. They just got an outfielder that has 1 home run in 531 at-bats.

Jesse Chavez - right-handed relief pitcher. Career in MLB: 116 games, 4.92 ERA, 1.45 WHIP

Tim Collins - left-handed relief pitcher. Actually has good numbers in the minors. 2.35 ERA and 1.09 WHIP in 116 games. Still in AA right now.

Is this right? My stats for Collins at AA have him with 104 strikeouts in 63.2 innings. That is a lot of K's.

cabletech94 07-31-2010 02:31 PM

cool. thanks for doing the legwork fellas.
ankiel--nothing
farnsy--after he gave up that homer to thome last year (early), i was like, money not well spent.

at least we could potentially have an upside with these new guys? maybe. throw me a bone here?!

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:31 PM

another comment from a Brave fan.

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Know who else is OF help? Blanco. AND HE'S BETTER THAN ANKIEL!!!!

Know who else is relief help? ONE OF THE BILLION RELIEVERS WE HAVE IN THE MINORS THAT WOULD LITERALLY COST NOTHING!!!!!

This trade is so f***ing bad.

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909229)
DAMN! Okay, maybe this trade will be alright after all.

His K rate is just ridiculous this trade looks like a win to me no more Ainkel

cabletech94 07-31-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909233)
another comment from a Brave fan.

this is too funny.
nice find.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 6909232)
cool. thanks for doing the legwork fellas.
ankiel--nothing
farnsy--after he gave up that homer to thome last year (early), i was like, money not well spent.

at least we could potentially have an upside with these new guys? maybe. throw me a bone here?!

We got a very, very good lefty reliever who could help our bullpen late next year or 2012. The other two guys are total lottery-tickets, but no reason to expect much out of them.

All I have to say about the other two guys, is Blanco better not block Kila, via starting in the OF and putting Guillen at DH. He needs to go to AAA and prove he can hit worth a damn at all. (he never did for Atlanta)

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-31-2010 02:38 PM

No excuses now, Kila needs to be up and playing the rest of the year. Guillen's slow ass is gonna be painful to watch in right every day though.

petegz28 07-31-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909241)
We got a very, very good lefty reliever who could help our bullpen late next year or 2012. The other two guys are total lottery-tickets, but no reason to expect much out of them.

All I have to say about the other two guys, is Blanco better not block Kila, via starting in the OF and putting Guillen at DH. He needs to go to AAA and prove he can hit worth a damn at all. (he never did for Atlanta)

I think Kila ****ed DM's wife for him not to be up yet. He is going to be the next Ryan Shealy. Wasted away in the minors.

WoodDraw 07-31-2010 02:39 PM

This is all win. No doubt aout it. We just traded shit for something decent. Can't remember the last time we've been on the good side of a trade this bad.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:43 PM

Ned Yost is no longer the interim manager. He has been signed through the 2012 season.

teedubya 07-31-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909253)
Ned Yost is no longer the interim manager. He has been signed through the 2012 season.

That's another win. I like Nedsy.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:46 PM

apparently Tim Collins (all 5'7" of him, nickname "Tiny Tim") is performing his magic with his curveball. Baseball America rated him as having the best curveball in the Blue Jays organization earlier this year, before they traded him to Atlanta.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:46 PM

update, we are also sending cash to Atlanta. no idea how much.

DeezNutz 07-31-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909223)
Yes, you are reading that correctly. They just got an outfielder that has 1 home run in 531 at-bats.

LMAO.

petegz28 07-31-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909260)
update, we are also sending cash to Atlanta. no idea how much.

Couldn't we have sent Guillen instead?

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-31-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6909264)
Couldn't we have sent Guillen instead?

I'll second that, we'll eat his whole salary too....just take him

DeezNutz 07-31-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6909264)
Couldn't we have sent Guillen instead?

DFA his ass and be done with it.

alnorth 07-31-2010 02:50 PM

another update: DM thinks Collins can move fast through the minor leagues<del>, and the Royals may consider trying to convert him to a starter.</del> (edit: removed false second-hand rumor)

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909270)
another update: DM thinks Collins can move fast through the minor leagues<del>, and the Royals may consider trying to convert him to a starter.</del> (edit: removed false second-hand rumor)

closer of the future maybe?

siberian khatru 07-31-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909296)
closer of the future maybe?

Billy Wagner Jr.

alnorth 07-31-2010 03:22 PM

I'm calling this trade a win. In the bigger picture, we aren't talking about high-upside like a great infielder or power OF or anything like that, but a very good relief pitcher still has value. We traded away Ankiel, who I no faith in, and Farnsworth, who is... not consistent and getting very old but is riding high on his first good season in a while. (imagine that, we took a player who is playing out of his mind at a level he cant sustain, and traded him at the height of his value. What a concept)

We got a guy who looks to me like he grades out as having a 50% chance of turning into a average-to-good relief pitcher, maybe a 25% chance of being an elite relief pitcher, and 25% chance of falling apart and turning into garbage.

Also a 4th outfielder with *NO* power and a pitcher I dont care about at all, but hey we could get lucky.

siberian khatru 07-31-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909307)
I'm calling this trade a win. In the bigger picture, we aren't talking about high-upside like a great infielder or power OF or anything like that, but a very good relief pitcher still has value. We traded away Ankiel, who I no faith in, and Farnsworth, who is... not consistent and getting very old but is riding high on his first good season in a while. (imagine that, we took a player who is playing out of his mind at a level he cant sustain, and traded him at the height of his value. What a concept)

We got a guy who looks to me like he grades out as having a 50% chance of turning into a average-to-good relief pitcher, maybe a 25% chance of being an elite relief pitcher, and 25% chance of falling apart and turning into garbage.

Also a 4th outfielder with *NO* power and a pitcher I dont care about at all, but hey we could get lucky.

Collins alone makes it a W. He has a future here, possibly a bright one. Ankiel and Farnsy had nothing.

Demonpenz 07-31-2010 03:27 PM

If we keep moving Players that are known for Minors maybe we will catch a break and one of them turns out to be a star. We are due to find another Peanut in shit for sure. I like the possibility for ankiel to get white hot at some point. He can hit homeruns in bunches

alnorth 07-31-2010 03:48 PM

Tim Collins stats: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...pbp&pid=525768

2.29 ERA this season, batters are hitting 0.154 off him in AA this year, maybe about 0.170-0.180 for his minor league career. close to 4.5K/BB this season.

Its also nice to see that he's starting to turn into a groundball pitcher, his GO/AO ratio is roughly 0.80 for the year. Doesn't give up homers, about 0.50 HR/9 for his career, which is really nice.

Obviously he probably cant maintain those elite Soria-level stats through AAA all the way up to KC, but if he doesn't just completely fall off a whole lot, he could be a very good setup.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6909247)
I think Kila ****ed DM's wife for him not to be up yet. He is going to be the next Ryan Shealy. Wasted away in the minors.

Ryan Shealy was not wasted away in the minors, he wasn't good enough to play in the big leagues.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6909253)
Ned Yost is no longer the interim manager. He has been signed through the 2012 season.

:clap:

DJ's left nut 07-31-2010 05:14 PM

Well, at least y'all didn't trade a Gold Glove caliber RFer and Silver Slugger for a washed up 4th starter.

I think you got more for Rick Ankiel than we got for Ryan Ludwick. Collins seems like a nice piece.

And you managed to unload Farnsworth's salary.

I'm still just stunned by this ****ing Ludwick trade.

BWillie 07-31-2010 05:31 PM

I can't say I dislike this trade. It's not mind blowing, but one decent prospect for those guys is a win. Just fucking bring Kila up already.

Mr. Laz 07-31-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6909247)
I think Kila ****ed DM's wife for him not to be up yet. He is going to be the next Ryan Shealy. Wasted away in the minors.

nah ... i think DM thinks they screwed up with Alex Gordon and doesn't want to do it again.

BWillie 07-31-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6909361)
Ryan Shealy was not wasted away in the minors, he wasn't good enough to play in the big leagues.

Speaking of Ryan Shealy, did he just quit or something? Where is he at this year?

Sure-Oz 07-31-2010 06:01 PM

I dont get why some of you are bitching about the return for a sandy vag like ankiel and a panzy ass farnsworth who has been worthless until this year, and he will suck as usual. We got rid of them, thats all that matters. We knew there was no value there, and now it should open a spot for Kila. Now cut guillen and get him the **** out of kc.

Mr. Laz 07-31-2010 06:04 PM

not bad ... wish we could of unloaded Guillen but :shrug:

siberian khatru 07-31-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6909471)
Speaking of Ryan Shealy, did he just quit or something? Where is he at this year?

IIRC, Red Sox recently released him from AAA.

BWillie 07-31-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6909522)
not bad ... wish we could of unloaded Guillen but :shrug:

I'll volunteer to take him out back and shoot him

Brianfo 07-31-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909211)
just looked them up. they all suck. what a surprise.

All the experts love the trade. Get a fukn clue before you post.

Mojo Jojo 07-31-2010 10:30 PM

Has anyone else heard this...Fescoe was reporting this week that the Patterson's (Cerner/KC Wizards) are putting together a group to buy the Royals?

WoodDraw 07-31-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6909855)
Has anyone else heard this...Fescoe was reporting this week that the Patterson's (Cerner/KC Wizards) are putting together a group to buy the Royals?

I haven't heard, but I'd love that. They've been fantastic with the Wizards.

They're not sugar daddy owners though, so it wouldn't do much on that end.

WoodDraw 07-31-2010 10:39 PM

I doubt the rumor though, unless the Glass's just want out. I believe there is some clause in their buying contract that dictates the amount of profit they can make off selling the team. Not sure if that still applies.

Also, they aren't losing money on the team. Where's the incentive to sell? MLB has become pretty lucrative.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-31-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 6909548)
All the experts love the trade. Get a fukn clue before you post.

There's a guy who is good in AA, and two guys that suck more ass than humanly possible in the majors. Pardon me while I try to contain my excitement.

CaliforniaChief 08-01-2010 11:24 AM

It's Kila time again, people.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/01...ls-tejada.html

BillSelfsTrophycase 08-01-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6910325)

Now will they actually give him some playing time?

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something reeruned like put Bloomquist at DH and leave Kila to ride the pine

Pasta Little Brioni 08-01-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 6909963)
There's a guy who is good in AA, and two guys that suck more ass than humanly possible in the majors. Pardon me while I try to contain my excitement.

Yes, but that is what the rate of return is for dealing 2 guys who suck ass in the majors. I'm surprised you got anything for Ankiel and Farnsworth. That lefty at least has potential.

ChiefsCountry 08-01-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6909855)
Has anyone else heard this...Fescoe was reporting this week that the Patterson's (Cerner/KC Wizards) are putting together a group to buy the Royals?

Who is in their investor group I wonder? It could be a good thing. Cardinals are ran in a similar fashion. Though if I was Glass I would just sell off half the team.


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