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ArrowheadHawk 06-07-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6804871)
I want it known right here and now, that I'm proud to be the anchor attached to the neck of KU fans as they slide briskly into the icy waters, thrashing for air, attempting to loosen the purple chains and cinderblocks that bind them, until one final gasp for air results in lungs full of water and death takes hold.

I had no idea the sway that KSU holds over their little brother. Complete and total ownership.

Let the epitaph read:

KU, we hardly <STRIKE>knew ye</STRIKE> cared.

Anchor. Pfffft. More like some crap stuck on our shoe. :D

luv 06-07-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804868)
Re-read what I bolded.

You jump in on EVERY conversation that says something about fat, or a fat girl. It's like a bulletin board pheromone for you.

I'm sorry you don't approve of my insecurity.

Pablo 06-07-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804879)
Anchor. Pfffft. More like some crap stuck on our shoe. :D

Just a dirty speck of EMAW on our pilgrim shoe buckles if you ask me.


ALBATROSS!!!!!

Frazod 06-07-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6804881)
I'm sorry you don't approve of my insecurity.

If you were too much of a chickenshit to even post a snapshot of yourself, then you'd have issues.

ChiTown 06-07-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6804881)
I'm sorry you don't approve of my insecurity.

:rolleyes:

Uh, you called someone out for the very thing you do yourself (fat obsession). Thus, the comment from me.

Saulbadguy 06-07-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6804871)
I want it known right here and now, that I'm proud to be the anchor attached to the neck of KU fans as they slide briskly into the icy waters, thrashing for air, attempting to loosen the purple chains and cinderblocks that bind them, until one final gasp for air results in lungs full of water and death takes hold.

I had no idea the sway that KSU holds over their little brother. Complete and total ownership.

Let the epitaph read:

KU, we hardly <strike>knew ye</strike> cared.

Yes, if this is going to be the phogtard talking point, i'm on board 100 percent.

kepp 06-07-2010 03:45 PM

Wait, has anyone checked on Mario Little?

HemiEd 06-07-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6804797)
Iowa football is an event in Iowa City.

Oh, it is a big deal all along I-80 through Iowa on a Saturday, very big deal.

Pants 06-07-2010 03:45 PM

Being overweight doesn't really point to any character flaws in a person (in most cases), being a fan of certain schools, does though. Can we please get back to talking shit on the schools we attended or are fans of?

ArrowheadHawk 06-07-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6804894)
Yes, if this is going to be the phogtard talking point, i'm on board 100 percent.

I actually agree with you on this. It's a dumb point. KState isn't holding KU back.

luv 06-07-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804889)
:rolleyes:

Uh, you called someone out for the very thing you do yourself (fat obsession). Thus, the comment from me.

I see someone get mocked, made fun of, or put down for their weight, and I know how that person feels. Yes, it's a weakness of mine to want to stand of for them. Not that frazod needs my help. He can stand up for himself. Like I said, it's a weakness.

Moving on....

Frazod 06-07-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804889)
:rolleyes:

Uh, you called someone out for the very thing you do yourself (fat obsession). Thus, the comment from me.

Failass isn't fat obsessed - he's just such a mental defective that he can't insult anybody without throwing in a personal dig, assuming he feels he's been presented with acceptable ammunition. He hits me with fat jokes. If I was Mexican, he'd tell me to mow his yard. If I was black, he'd tell me to eat a watermelon. If I was handicapped, he'd tell me to roll my wheelchair down the stairs. That's just how he is. Nothing like what Luv does.

luv 06-07-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804905)
Being overweight doesn't really point to any character flaws in a person (in most cases), being a fan of certain schools, does though. Can we please get back to talking shit on the schools we attended or are fans of?

Gladly. :D

Bambi 06-07-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6804871)
I want it known right here and now, that I'm proud to be the anchor attached to the neck of KU fans as they slide briskly into the icy waters, thrashing for air, attempting to loosen the purple chains and cinderblocks that bind them, until one final gasp for air results in lungs full of water and death takes hold.

I had no idea the sway that KSU holds over their little brother. Complete and total ownership.

Let the epitaph read:

KU, we hardly <strike>knew ye</strike> cared.

haha

Pablo 06-07-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804908)
I actually agree with you on this. It's a dumb point. KState isn't holding KU back.

I think laz is the only one really championing that talking point.

Bambi 06-07-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6804902)
Wait, has anyone checked on Mario Little?

I think Josh Selby is keeping his eye on him.

Pants 06-07-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804918)
I think laz is the only one really championing that talking point.

Shut the **** up, phogtard.

Saulbadguy 06-07-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804918)
I think laz is the only one really championing that talking point.

Because he's a ****ing idiot/whiner/bitch.

OnTheWarpath15 06-07-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6804853)
One source you quote says $9million, one says $15 million, somehow somewhere you came up with a figure for $28 million.
Which is it?
http://citationmachine.net/

I didn't come up with anything, the people that wrote the articles that I posted did.

FTR, I've never said anything about $9M, that was in one of the articles I used to source the $1.3 and $4.5M, IIRC.

This was the post you questioned:

Quote:

Notre Dame has their own network, pull more money independently than they would in the B10 ($28M from football alone, not counting NBC), so between the NBC numbers and the BCS endowment of more than $5 billion. They get $1.3 million a year if they doesn't qualify for a Bowl Championship Series berth and $4.5 million if they do. They don't have to share that money with anyone. So the BCS system actually is encouraging Notre Dame to stay independent.

They already have a sweetheart deal with the BCS. What more can the B10 give?

The B10 Network is a huge step down from NBC. Financially and in viewership.

Brian Kelly said it a few weeks back - we want the flexibility to play coast-to-coast.

They already play 3-4 B10 schools a year, USC, plus another team or two from the Pac10, plus a game each, sometimes two against an ACC and Big East opponent.

And all of that doesn't even bring tradition into the mix, which is one of the main reasons given by ND everytime this comes up.

The best reason ND would have to move to the B10 is to cut down on travel costs for lower and non-revenue sports.

Otherwise, they'd be stupid to move, IMO.
If you have a problem with the discrepancy between 9 and 15, I suggest you take it up with the folks that wrote those articles.



You asked me to source those numbers, and I did.

ArrowheadHawk 06-07-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804911)
Failass isn't fat obsessed - he's just such a mental defective that he can't insult anybody without throwing in a personal dig, assuming he feels he's been presented with acceptable ammunition. He hits me with fat jokes. If I was Mexican, he'd tell me to mow his yard. If I was black, he'd tell me to eat a watermelon. If I was handicapped, he'd tell me to roll my wheelchair down the stairs. That's just how he is. Nothing like what Luv does.

Leave Fraz alone. He never ever personally attacks anybody.

OnTheWarpath15 06-07-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804936)
Leave Fraz alone. He never ever personally attacks anybody.

Now I need to find a post of his so I can rep him for that.

LMAO

KChiefs1 06-07-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6804871)
I want it known right here and now, that I'm proud to be the anchor attached to the neck of KU fans as they slide briskly into the icy waters, thrashing for air, attempting to loosen the purple chains and cinderblocks that bind them, until one final gasp for air results in lungs full of water and death takes hold.

I had no idea the sway that KSU holds over their little brother. Complete and total ownership.

Let the epitaph read:

KU, we hardly <STRIKE>knew ye</STRIKE> cared.

ROFL

vailpass 06-07-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6804928)
I didn't come up with anything, the people that wrote the articles that I posted did.

FTR, I've never said anything about $9M, that was in one of the articles I used to source the $1.3 and $4.5M, IIRC.

This was the post you questioned:



If you have a problem with the discrepancy between 9 and 15, I suggest you take it up with the folks that wrote those articles.



You asked me to source those numbers, and I did.

I'm sorry, I was just questioning the discrepancy in the numbers. I know you didn't write those articles but you did cite them so I was asking if you had more evidence that they were valid numbers. I'm exact figure driven, this is a carry over from my real life. Sorry to dog you with it.

vailpass 06-07-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804936)
Leave Fraz alone. He never ever personally attacks anybody.

:D Dude is a fat-ass bitterman who sits and yells at all the kids to stay off his damn lawn then complains when all the neighbors say he is a prick.

Frazod 06-07-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804936)
Leave Fraz alone. He never ever personally attacks anybody.

LMAO

Yeah, you got all butthurt and neg-repped me over a flippant comment I made about something that happened 150 years ago.

I'm sorry. Do you require therapy now?

OnTheWarpath15 06-07-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6804943)
I'm sorry, I was just questioning the discrepancy in the numbers. I know you didn't write those articles but you did cite them so I was asking if you had more evidence that they were valid numbers. I'm exact figure driven, this is a carry over from my real life. Sorry to dog you with it.

No problem.

Honestly, you can google or bing "Notre Dame NBC contract" and get numerous reports with both numbers. The only numbers regarding ND that I never see waver are the BCS payouts.

Those numerous conflicting reports are another reason why I give a bit more credence to the Professor's claims than you do.

ArrowheadHawk 06-07-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804950)
LMAO

Yeah, you got all butthurt and neg-repped me over a flippant comment I made about something that happened 150 years ago.

I'm sorry. Do you require therapy now?

Na I'm good.

vailpass 06-07-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6804956)
No problem.

Honestly, you can google or bing "Notre Dame NBC contract" and get numerous reports with both numbers. The only numbers regarding ND that I never see waver are the BCS payouts.

Those numerous conflicting reports are another reason why I give a bit more credence to the Professor's claims than you do.

Understood and that is a valid view. Like I say, I was carrying over real life to the intertubes and realized I needed to lighten up a little with the data demands.
Cheers.

Frazod 06-07-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6804948)
:D Dude is a fat-ass bitterman who sits and yells at all the kids to stay off his damn lawn then complains when all the neighbors say he is a prick.

Actually, I have a condo. No yard. Sorry.

But whatever I am, it's better than being a pussy troll on an internet BB.

Frazod 06-07-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6804964)
Na I'm good.

Are you sure? Maybe failass will give you reacharound.

Pants 06-07-2010 04:06 PM

Thread losing burst. Again.

vailpass 06-07-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804978)
Thread losing burst. Again.

Are there any other members of the KS-MO feud or is KU-KSU-MU it? I'll gladly insult Southwest Missouri State's alleged football program if that will help (did that school change it's name? I used to see a hot little thing from Springfield, MO that went to SWMS. Godamn I had forgotten about her. Tight little ass on that.)

kepp 06-07-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804978)
Thread losing burst. Again.

Yep

OnTheWarpath15 06-07-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6805011)
Are there any other members of the KS-MO feud or is KU-KSU-MU it? I'll gladly insult Southwest Missouri State's alleged football program if that will help (did that school change it's name? I used to see a hot little thing from Springfield, MO that went to SWMS. Godamn I had forgotten about her. Tight little ass on that.)

Yes, they changed from SMSU to Missouri State University.

And if this "tight little ass" was anywhere between 1994-1996, you probably got my sloppy seconds.

:D

Stinger 06-07-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6805011)
Are there any other members of the KS-MO feud or is KU-KSU-MU it? I'll gladly insult Southwest Missouri State's alleged football program if that will help (did that school change it's name? I used to see a hot little thing from Springfield, MO that went to SWMS. Godamn I had forgotten about her. Tight little ass on that.)

Here in Springfield we joke we allegedly have a football team here too .... But it is Evangel's. And yes the name changed to Missouri State University (MSU) a few years ago.

kepp 06-07-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6805036)
Yes, they changed from SMSU to Missouri State University.

And if this "tight little ass" was anywhere between 1994-1996, you probably got my sloppy seconds.

:D

Were you in a dorm? I was there '92-'95

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6805042)
Were you in a dorm? I was there '92-'95

Have we just identified the "tight little ass" in question?

OnTheWarpath15 06-07-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6805042)
Were you in a dorm? I was there '92-'95

Blair-Shannon my Freshman year, then moved to a house near the corner of East Monroe and South Kimbrough, just a couple blocks from JQH Arena.

The house and the parties were epic, my grades, however, were not.

Thus, I'm back in school many, many years later.

:D

MoreLemonPledge 06-07-2010 04:34 PM

What was this thread about again?

Reaper16 06-07-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6805065)
Blair-Shannon my Freshman year, then moved to a house near the corner of East Monroe and South Kimbrough, just a couple blocks from JQH Arena.

The house and the parties were epic, my grades, however, were not.

Thus, I'm back in school many, many years later.

:D

Geez, pass a class in something, ANYTHING /KU fans

Titty Meat 06-07-2010 04:42 PM

You know its bad for Beakers when they wish Skiptowne would come back.

vailpass 06-07-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6805036)
Yes, they changed from SMSU to Missouri State University.

And if this "tight little ass" was anywhere between 1994-1996, you probably got my sloppy seconds.

:D

:D I got no problem there, virgins are for men who want to take time to teach. This was in 1992 or so when I lived in Colorado. She was a gamer boy, I liked that girl. And several others.
Ahhh, the good old days.

vailpass 06-07-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6805059)
Have we just identified the "tight little ass" in question?

ROFL
Hey wait a minute....

vailpass 06-07-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6805069)
What was this thread about again?

I can't remember but I fiugured bringing up a tight piece of ass would get something going again.

Titty Meat 06-07-2010 04:47 PM

OK GANG THE DEAL IS DONE



http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/...c.php?t=726140

Titty Meat 06-07-2010 04:47 PM

This has all the makings of last years Pioli thread.

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6805075)
Geez, pass a class in something, ANYTHING /KU fans

This post is so awesome that I just raised a banner in my office. Really, the fabric.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 04:54 PM

Apparently lew perkins just exploded on a reporter *breaking* on 610

a female reporter it wasnt kornaki lol

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 04:56 PM

Just heard it....i'll say it was more irritated than an explosion adn not news worthy 610

KcMizzou 06-07-2010 05:07 PM

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lew-...,1882346.story

Titty Meat 06-07-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6805119)
Apparently lew perkins just exploded on a reporter *breaking* on 610

a female reporter it wasnt kornaki lol

Whatd she say?

KcMizzou 06-07-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6805159)
Whatd she say?

Vid on the link I posted.

Nothing major. He was asked about possibly losing his job and got a little offended/defensive about it.

duncan_idaho 06-07-2010 05:13 PM

Notre Dame will not move until/unless it becomes clear the super conference is coming.

I think the writing is on the wall with that.

My favorite thing in all this... Texas' "Ultimatum" is just going to work in Missouri and Nebraska's favor. Best thing that could happen for those schools:

1) Friday "Ultimatum" deadline comes and goes, and the Texas 6 depart as a result.
2) THOSE schools are the ones that get nailed for leaving the league on short notice. (LOLZ)
3) The Big Ten, in response to the Pac-16, goes to 16 (or possibly even 18). Notre Dame, seeing the super conference movement pick up speed, agrees to join the new Big 16 (rather than get left behind. All that NBC money dwindles if all the rest of the good football schools take their balls to a new league)
4) Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers and Syracuse join the Big 16.
5) kansas, kansas state, Iowa State and the loser of the Baylor/Colorado feud for the Texas 6's final spot join the MWC (which likely gains BCS status in a year or two... and then sees the BCS disappear when the fourth super conference is formed).

This is extremely beneficial for Missouri and Nebraska recruiting (both in KC, Missouri in St. Louis).

And I'll wish ku good luck recruiting Josh Shelby's when they are playing in the MWC and not on national TV weekly...

Titty Meat 06-07-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6805166)
Vid on the link I posted.

Nothing major. He was asked about possibly losing his job and got a little offended/defensive about it.

He'll be the best AD in the Mountain West.

KcMizzou 06-07-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6805172)
He'll be the best AD in the Mountain West.

Hopefully he keeps the wacky hat.

Sully 06-07-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6805065)
Blair-Shannon my Freshman year, then moved to a house near the corner of East Monroe and South Kimbrough, just a couple blocks from JQH Arena.

The house and the parties were epic, my grades, however, were not.

Thus, I'm back in school many, many years later.

:D

Good God...
You may very well have "had" my girlfriend at the time. Same dorm, same years, and she did screw around...

You bastard!!!

Pants 06-07-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6805169)

And I'll wish ku good luck recruiting Josh Shelby's when they are playing in the MWC and not on national TV weekly...

If we somehow manage to keep the staff, won't be an issue.

Bambi 06-07-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6805169)
Notre Dame will not move until/unless it becomes clear the super conference is coming.

I think the writing is on the wall with that.

My favorite thing in all this... Texas' "Ultimatum" is just going to work in Missouri and Nebraska's favor. Best thing that could happen for those schools:

1) Friday "Ultimatum" deadline comes and goes, and the Texas 6 depart as a result.
2) THOSE schools are the ones that get nailed for leaving the league on short notice. (LOLZ)
3) The Big Ten, in response to the Pac-16, goes to 16 (or possibly even 18). Notre Dame, seeing the super conference movement pick up speed, agrees to join the new Big 16 (rather than get left behind. All that NBC money dwindles if all the rest of the good football schools take their balls to a new league)
4) Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers and Syracuse join the Big 16.
5) kansas, kansas state, Iowa State and the loser of the Baylor/Colorado feud for the Texas 6's final spot join the MWC (which likely gains BCS status in a year or two... and then sees the BCS disappear when the fourth super conference is formed).

This is extremely beneficial for Missouri and Nebraska recruiting (both in KC, Missouri in St. Louis).

And I'll wish ku good luck recruiting Josh Shelby's when they are playing in the MWC and not on national TV weekly...


I just can't see those 6 going to the Pac-10 for multiple reasons:

1. This hot shot new Pac-10 commish may have bitten off more than than he can chew with his words Sunday. Rumor now is that the Academia wing of the Pac 10 (Cal, Stanford, etc.) are not so sure about schools like Ok St, Texas Tech and Baylor... Athletics do not mean everything to millions of college people in this country.

2. Everyone is ignoring the time difference and travel distance issues. Collegiate athletics is not all about football no matter how much these media talking heads are trying to make it out to be. Washington State to Southern Cal is one thing... Washington State to Texas is another.

3. So Texas is just going to give up all it has to deal with playing Oklahoma every year in a division title game and then having to end up playing USC for the title? I'm not so sure. For what? The prospects of a $20 million share of a TV contract? A lot of which will have to go back into funding the crazy travel and scheduling of the smaller sports? Why not just stay where they are?

I can believe MU wanting to go to the Big 10, the question is whether or not they end up asking. NEB I think will be more likely to be asked, but more unlikely to accept than MU.

If they're both ask, they both go. But I don't think Texas reacts because of those two schools leaving. If they go it will be their own decision.

Bambi 06-07-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6805172)
He'll be the best AD in the Mountain West.

With doing so much with so little (as you all like to put it) he could be called the best AD in the Big 12.

duncan_idaho 06-07-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805235)
I just can't see those 6 going to the Pac-10 for multiple reasons:

1. This hot shot new Pac-10 commish may have bitten off more than than he can chew with his words Sunday. Rumor now is that the Academia wing of the Pac 10 (Cal, Stanford, etc.) are not so sure about schools like Ok St, Texas Tech and Baylor... Athletics do not mean everything to millions of college people in this country.

2. Everyone is ignoring the time difference and travel distance issues. Collegiate athletics is not all about football no matter how much these media talking heads are trying to make it out to be. Washington State to Southern Cal is one thing... Washington State to Texas is another.

3. So Texas is just going to give up all it has to deal with playing Oklahoma every year in a division title game and then having to end up playing USC for the title? I'm not so sure. For what? The prospects of a $20 million share of a TV contract? A lot of which will have to go back into funding the crazy travel and scheduling of the smaller sports? Why not just stay where they are?

I can believe MU wanting to go to the Big 10, the question is whether or not they end up asking. NEB I think will be more likely to be asked, but more unlikely to accept than MU.

If they're both ask, they both go. But I don't think Texas reacts because of those two schools leaving. If they go it will be their own decision.

1) Baylor is not a bad academic school. It actually is pretty good. And Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona State, Arizona, Wazzou are no better academically than Tech or Okie Lite. The Pac-10 academic wing basically is Cal and Stanford, with decent efforts from UCLA, USC and Washington.

2) They will find a scheduling deal that works for Olympic sports. For football, travel won't be a huge issue due to the division alignment.

3) The Big 12 has a shitty TV deal that is already far behind the Big Ten, SEC and ACC. How is it going to improve that without Missouri and Nebraska? If the Texas 6 to the Pac-10 doesn't handle, the league likely WILL grab Colorado and Utah.

The Big 12 HAS to improve the next deal or it's going to die. Ain't going to happen without the markets Missouri and Colorado bring. Lose either, and you're lucky to find a TV deal consistent with inflation. Lose both? YOu're taking a step back.

4) Missouri and Nebraska are both going to get offers. It's highly possible each has at least a verbal offer in place at this point (and has for a while).

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 05:50 PM

UCLA, USC, and Washington are much better than decent efforts.

Academically, those three universities are significantly better than any university in the Big XII not named Texas.

duncan_idaho 06-07-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6805208)
If we somehow manage to keep the staff, won't be an issue.

Will Self stick around, though? Somehow, I think he wants to do more than beat the sh*t out of Wyoming and Colorado State and co.

Anyway, I know Memphis recruits at a huge level despite the CUSA affiliation, but that's with huge regional recruiting advantages, entrance requirements that basically amount to: "Can you spell your name" and an AD that has been tied pretty strongly to blatant cheating (Derrick Rose, anyone?). Would ku eventually have to resort to similar tactics to stay where it is?

duncan_idaho 06-07-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6805274)
UCLA, USC, and Washington are much better than decent efforts.

Academically, those three universities are significantly better than any university in the Big XII not named Texas.

Just saying... Texas Tech and Okie Lite (and OU, too, I guess) would fit OK into the 'academic dead weight' category with Arizona State, Wazzou, Oregon, Oregon State, etc.

The Pac-10 is very top heavy with strong academic institutions... but the bottom of the conference isn't much different than what the Texas 6 would bring (outside CU, aTm and UT)....

Bambi 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6805277)
Will Self stick around, though? Somehow, I think he wants to do more than beat the sh*t out of Wyoming and Colorado State and co.

Anyway, I know Memphis recruits at a huge level despite the CUSA affiliation, but that's with huge regional recruiting advantages, entrance requirements that basically amount to: "Can you spell your name" and an AD that has been tied pretty strongly to blatant cheating (Derrick Rose, anyone?). Would ku eventually have to resort to similar tactics to stay where it is?

Well Kansas has been the only viable basketball program in the Big 12 (maybe Texas) and they haven't had any trouble recruiting with the best, sending players to the NBA, making Final Fours and winning a title.

So no, moving to the MWC won't hurt Kansas basketball that much imo. They'll soon be setting the all time record for consecutive NCAA tournament appearances and I don't think that's in jeporday either.

But I don't think the Big 12's breaking up so what does it matter?

DJ's left nut 06-07-2010 06:00 PM

Regarding the 'massive' Big 12 TV deal - it's a pipe dream.

Texas is going to insist on its own TV network as a condition to keeping the Big 12 alive. It's going to tell Big 12 leadership that it's only going to decline the Pac-10 deal if the B12 consents to the UT network with UT keeping the revenue. If Texas has it's own Network, the Big 12 TV deal is worth about a buck fiddy.

The Big 12 is dead. Be it this year or in 3 years -- it's ****ing dead. By whoring out to Texas, the Big 12 has ensured that it's little more than UT's bitch.

You simply cannot allow one school to control a conference like this. Beebe was too damn stupid to realize it.

It's over. If they want to limp along for another year or two, maybe they can. But the Big 12 as a legitimate major conference is done.

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6805281)
Just saying... Texas Tech and Okie Lite (and OU, too, I guess) would fit OK into the 'academic dead weight' category with Arizona State, Wazzou, Oregon, Oregon State, etc.

The Pac-10 is very top heavy with strong academic institutions... but the bottom of the conference isn't much different than what the Texas 6 would bring (outside CU, aTm and UT)....

Agreed.

CrazyPhuD 06-07-2010 06:02 PM

here's an interesting study from the 07-8 school year on total athletic revenue for FBS schools...

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...-tell-you.html

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1st Texas $120,288,370 Big 12
10th Oklahoma State $88,554,438 Big 12
11th Kansas $86,009,257 Big 12
17th Oklahoma $77,098,009 Big 12
20th Nebraska $75,492,884 Big 12
21st Texas A&M $74,781,640 Big 12
43rd Colorado $52,631,896 Big 12
46th Missouri $49,113,786 Big 12
47th Kansas State $48,160,113 Big 12
56th Baylor $44,151,763 Big 12
58th Texas Tech $42,844,855 Big 12
63rd Iowa State $38,642,013 Big 12
The inequity is pretty shocking....but I will say I doubt KU would have a hard time landing in a major, even if they are straddled with KSU.

Bambi 06-07-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 6805292)
here's an interesting study from the 07-8 school year on total athletic revenue for FBS schools...

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...-tell-you.html



The inequity is pretty shocking....but I will say I doubt KU would have a hard time landing in a major, even if they are straddled with KSU.

To be fair Kansas won a BCS Bowl game that year giving them a decent spike but no, it's not that far off.

Kansas brings in a tremendous amount of money for ITSELF. The worry is does it make a TV cable subscriber deal better to sell?

KU has a huge national following but that doesn't neccessarily translate to cable subscriptions at home, where there just aren't that many people.

I agree, the athletic achievement that KU has is going to be hard to ignore if any of this movement ever happens.

DJ's left nut 06-07-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805286)
Well Kansas has been the only viable basketball program in the Big 12 (maybe Texas) and they haven't had any trouble recruiting with the best, sending players to the NBA, making Final Fours and winning a title.

So no, moving to the MWC won't hurt Kansas basketball that much imo. They'll soon be setting the all time record for consecutive NCAA tournament appearances and I don't think that's in jeporday either.

But I don't think the Big 12's breaking up so what does it matter?

I think I've reached the point where I can only admire your optimism. 'Quixotic' does't even do you justice.

I think you're completely delusional, but I'll be damned if you aren't doing a fine job of keeping a stiff upper lip.

Bambi 06-07-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6805301)
I think I've reached the point where I can only admire your optimism. 'Quixotic' does't even do you justice.

I think you're completely delusional, but I'll be damned if you aren't doing a fine job of keeping a stiff upper lip.

If delusional keeps winning Kansas titles then that's quite fine with me.

Nice car by the way. Looks like you've compensated well.

Frazod 06-07-2010 06:16 PM

Huge national following.

ROFL

vailpass 06-07-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805300)
To be fair Kansas won a BCS Bowl game that year giving them a decent spike but no, it's not that far off.

Kansas brings in a tremendous amount of money for ITSELF. The worry is does it make a TV cable subscriber deal better to sell?

KU has a huge national following but that doesn't neccessarily translate to cable subscriptions at home, where there just aren't that many people.

I agree, the athletic achievement that KU has is going to be hard to ignore if any of this movement ever happens.

:homer:

teedubya 06-07-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6805311)
Huge national following.

ROFL

That would be evidenced by the fact that ESPN broadcast about 20 KU games nationally last season.

kstater 06-07-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6805316)
That would be evidenced by the fact that ESPN broadcast about 20 KU games nationally last season.

And needed KSU to come along to give it it's best ratings.

DJ's left nut 06-07-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805310)
If delusional keeps winning Kansas titles then that's quite fine with me.

Nice car by the way. Looks like you've compensated well.

Hey, if you think the Josh Selby's of the world are really going to keep flocking to the MWC instead of going to the new 'SuperPac', more power to you.

I truly believe you are greatly underestimating the impact of becoming a mid-major. Maybe the SEC or even the ACC will toss you a life preserver, but if KU ends up in the Mountain West, say goodbye to being a national power (if ever you truly were. 2 championships in 50 years is hardly what I'd consider a powerhouse, but that's a separate debate...)

Notre Dame is your white knight. You'd better hope those fellas commit and stop this expansion talk soon...

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 06:31 PM

KU's chancellor called the chancellors of Nebraska and Missouri just to tell them about Kansas's superiority and to remind them that basketball season was on the way.

"How many Final Fours do you have?" was the ending question.

Bambi 06-07-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6805321)
Hey, if you think the Josh Selby's of the world are really going to keep flocking to the MWC instead of going to the new 'SuperPac', more power to you.

I truly believe you are greatly underestimating the impact of becoming a mid-major. Maybe the SEC or even the ACC will toss you a life preserver, but if KU ends up in the Mountain West, say goodbye to being a national power (if ever you truly were. 2 championships in 50 years is hardly what I'd consider a powerhouse, but that's a separate debate...)

Notre Dame is your white knight. You'd better hope those fellas commit and stop this expansion talk soon...

I've already stated multiple times that I believe a ND commitment will end all of this.

DJ's left nut 06-07-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805333)
I've already stated multiple times that I believe a ND commitment will end all of this.

You've also stated that basketball makes more money than football and that there's no way MU gets a Big 10 invite.

You're almost as good at this as CoMoChief.

Bambi 06-07-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6805331)
KU's chancellor called the chancellors of Nebraska and Missouri just to tell them about Kansas's superiority and to remind them that basketball season was on the way.

"How many Final Fours do you have?" was the ending question.

I believed she called to encourage them not to throw away 100 years of tradition and rivalry.

Then again for MU you might as well throw away the last 100 years.

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6805337)
I believed she called to encourage them not to throw away 100 years of tradition and rivalry.

LMAO. How cute. "Tradition" and "rivalry." LMAO.


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