Exactly. We don't have much left to trade, outside of Ventura. Zimmer is untradeable. We aren't doing Ventura for Utley and they wouldn't do any deal without Ventura. hence the discussion is dumb.

Dan Glass for Utley.

For Dave so loved the team he gave his only begotten son. And whosoever believeth in him shall probably still perish but will have Chase Utley.

I don't find it dumb at all. Royals fans talking baseball in the Royals thread happens every day on here. What I find dumb is one of the most illogical and opinionated dipshits on this Forum making absurd statements such as this.

Cry like a baby much?


Ok, tell us who we're going to trade for Utley. Be specific. I'd love to hear it.

They have already closed the upper deck for the night.

Calling duncan to completely debunk the notion that the Royals have few trade pieces.

I didn't say anything about Utley. I was talking about you specifically.

You said my statement was "absurd". If you can't explain why it is, then you really can't call it absurd after all.

:spank:

I knew you'd cry uncle and give up.

Looks like we're on the verge of our 5th postponement of the season and third straight Friday PPD. ****in' eh.

No.

The discussion doesn't just begin and end with Utley, either. Jimmy Rollins is an interesting name as well (though his vesting option for 2015 is a concern).

Nobody is untradeable. Wil Myers should have taught us all that. Also, TINSTAPP. Hoarding pitching prospects is not guaranteed to succeed. In fact, there's plenty of evidence to suggest the opposite.

The Royals compatability as a trade partner with Philadelphia comes down to what type of rebuild the Phillies plan to do. If they want "close" talent, the Royals would have a tough time matching up without Ventura (though I have a hard time seeing any top 50 talents involved in a deadline deal for Utley).

If the Phillies are willing to accept something that's farther away, a lot of talent comes into play (and I'm probably missing a few guys):

Orlando Calixte
Jorge Bonifacio
Cheslor Cuthbert
Miguel Almonte
Angel Baez
Sam Selman
Kyle Smith
Bryan Brickhouse
Fred Ford
Cam Gallagher

It's too early to have any idea what Philly is looking at, but if they're a seller this year, they're probably looking at a 2-3 year rebuild.

If you look at what the Phillies got in return for Hunter Pence (who was younger, controlled longer and much less of a health risk), you're not talking about prospects like Ventura or Zimmer.

You're talking about Seth Rosin - 23-year-old who started his third professional season at A+ level - and Tommy Joseph - a young catcher with some intriguing power but contact issues.

Oh, and Nate Schierholtz.

Call answered.

Tonights game postponed, make up is monday at 1:10

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