Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)

It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student

Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 14068938)

Kid was 18, how is this illegal? Unethical maybe, but illegal?

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)

As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)

As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14069061)

From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.

So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)

It's been a slow start to 2019.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)

As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14069309)

:rolleyes:

ya, because getting laid by your teacher is really important to getting an education.

...people have lost their minds.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14069061)

From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069344)

That unequal power relationship can occur in many contexts, and if you're holding grades over someone's head, then it becomes potentially nonconsensual, and therefore rape.

If you interview the student and they're like "oh, no, he/she was totally hot and I was completely down for it. Hell I approached the teacher!" and they're still at risk for jail? I don't see any logic at all behind that.

Legal age by definition means eligible to consent to sex. So the crime is what, exactly, here?



Yes, criminal sanctions. If you want to fire her, that makes perfect sense. It's an inappropriate relationship. If you want to revoke her teaching credentials so she doesn't teach elsewhere, no problem.

JAIL?! Permanent criminal record? Why? That makes no sense at all to me. How



I wouldn't have it include any "civil" remedy either by the student against the teacher, if it was consensual. Where's the logic in that.

Again, the problem is that it's inappropriate for a teacher to have such a relationship with a student due to the power imbalance, but the punishment seems seriously disproportionate to the event if the teacher is threatened with jail.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)

It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student

Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280