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baitism 01-24-2019 04:06 PM

When I student taught, I had lots of students who wanted the bone. I'm not surprised this happens. That being said, jail for a 4, 5 year gap in age is insane.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 14069829)
Not with makeup and a dress. She looks great with her witch outfit.

This is true. Moral to the story is get up and leave before she takes off her makeup.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 14069893)

Wait, I'm rechanging my mind.


Guilty.

TLO 01-24-2019 06:31 PM

GUILTY AS CHARGED

stevieray 01-24-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069324)

But to actually be at risk to go to jail over this? When they were both consenting adults? WTF??

Absolutlely.

It has no place in this setting.

Amnorix 01-24-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14070561)
Absolutlely.

It has no place in this setting.


Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

cooper barrett 01-24-2019 08:42 PM

Doable


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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14069333)
Looks like she was a real witch!


otherstar 01-24-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

Not jail, but many colleges and universities have rules against such things because of the ethics involved. At the college were I work, it's forbidden for faculty or staff to be romantically involved with students. I don't think there would be consequences for the student, but it could cost the employee their job.

Indian Chief 01-24-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

This is hyperbolic. There is no madness. High school students are anywhere from 14-18, meaning the vast majority are under 18. Hell, there are a good number of graduating seniors that are under 18. You don't make a rule for 90% of the institution and a weird, unneeded exception for 10%. Here's the real issue. There is NO REASON a high school teacher should be, or needs to be, having sex with a student. None.

The situations in your other examples are completely unethical. They are certainly not illegal. If an educational institution has a regulation on the books making it a violation, then that's another layer. If nothing else, prohibiting teachers from sleeping with students (at all levels) removes the appearance of impropriety. There is no sleeping with a teacher for a better grade, or any other advantage. It's a similar reason to why many companies either frown upon or outright prohibit dating a subordinate.

displacedinMN 01-24-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by otherstar (Post 14070779)
Not jail, but many colleges and universities have rules against such things because of the ethics involved. At the college were I work, it's forbidden for faculty or staff to be romantically involved with students. I don't think there would be consequences for the student, but it could cost the employee their job.

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Great Expectations 01-24-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.

El Lobo Gordo 01-24-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 14070866)
Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.

Do you think it is jail time because the high school student is incapable of consent?

Great Expectations 01-25-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo (Post 14070881)
Do you think it is jail time because the high school student is incapable of consent?

Due to maturity level and there should be a cutoff at some level. That one makes the most sense.

Amnorix 01-25-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 14070787)
This is hyperbolic. There is no madness. High school students are anywhere from 14-18, meaning the vast majority are under 18. Hell, there are a good number of graduating seniors that are under 18. You don't make a rule for 90% of the institution and a weird, unneeded exception for 10%. Here's the real issue. There is NO REASON a high school teacher should be, or needs to be, having sex with a student. None.

It's very simple -- each state has an age for consent. That age -- whatever it is in that state, determines whether a person is deemed by the law to be an adult and be able to consent to sexual relations.

Whether that person is a student or not shouldn't suddenly render them incapable of legally consenting, and shouldn't render their sexual partner subject to criminal penalties.

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The situations in your other examples are completely unethical. They are certainly not illegal.
Agreed. AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR A TEACHER OF A STUDENT WHO IS OF LEGAL AGE!

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If an educational institution has a regulation on the books making it a violation, then that's another layer. If nothing else, prohibiting teachers from sleeping with students (at all levels) removes the appearance of impropriety. There is no sleeping with a teacher for a better grade, or any other advantage. It's a similar reason to why many companies either frown upon or outright prohibit dating a subordinate.
Agreed as to all this also.

Amnorix 01-25-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 14070866)
Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.


Just to be 100% clear:

In May, an 18 year old student (a senior in HS) has sex with his high school teacher (let's call her Mary). That fall, he (still 18 but now a freshman in college, and male) then has sex with his college professor (let's call her Jane).

Under your rules, Mary should go to jail, but Jane should not?

Yeah, agree to disagree on that. Mary and Jane should both be fired, and Mary's teaching certifications should be revoked. College profs usually don't have such things, but if you can put a permanent black mark on her resume, that's cool too.

But JAIL? That's ridiculous in my mind.


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