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Chiefspants 05-03-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9656222)
We're probably at least $10-15MM under market per year on that.

That stings, how long are we attached to that abomination of a deal again?

CaliforniaChief 05-03-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9656253)
Weather has blown balls, Royals keep the winning up the K will be rocking this summer.

This actually makes a lot of sense when you consider that FSKC has been killing the ratings so far. There's no doubt that the fans are getting into this team.

duncan_idaho 05-03-2013 11:22 PM

As great as Santana has been this year, I would not want to sign him to a lucrative long-term deal.

He has been so up-and-down throughout his career, I'd be nervous to do something like that. Those are the types of guys that can hamstring a small-market like Kansas City for YEARS if they go bad.

As far as trade pieces...

Here are guys who could be "headliners" in a big deal:

1) Kyle Zimmer. Doesn't profile as a true ace (Verlander/Kershaw/King Felix), but then only a few minor league guys have that type of upside. Profiles just fine as someone with James Shields/Zack Greinke level potential. Highly unlikely to be traded for anything but a young player controlled for multiple years with star potential.

2) Yordano Ventura. Stuff and results are great, and his durability has been just fine. Electric arm. Could be moved, but the Royals love him.

3) Miguel Almonte. Recent reports have placed this guy on the same level as Zimmer as a prospect. Very similar to Julio Teheran in terms of stuff and potential. More moveable, I think.

4) Adalberto Mondesi. He's so far away, his trade value isn't as high as it should be. Still, a 17 year old playing full season ball and slugging .150 points higher than his BA (current totals) while also playing defense that will stick and be above average at SS? Yes, please. Least likely player to get moved.

5) Bubba Starling. Crazy upside is still there, and he's starting to hit now at Lexington. Only question is hit tool. Everything else is easy plus.


6) Orlando Calixte. Middle infielder with big power potential. Not sure he can stick at SS, but he hasn't proven he can't. Early returns at Northwest Arkansas have been mixed with the bat. Doesn't have the same value as the other 4, who are all top 50 types.

7) Jorge Bonifacio. Big-time hit tools and power potential aplenty, he's performing well in a tough hitter's environment (Wilmington). Less positional value but better bat than Calixte.

There are a host of guys that can be added/subtracted to get to a deal for a more major piece:

Chris Dwyer
Christian Colon
Angel Baez
Sam Selman
Kyle Smith
Bryan Brickhouse
Cameron Gallagher
Jason Adam
Cheslor Cuthbert
Johnny Giavotella
Will Smith
Donnie Joseph

a pp roach 05-03-2013 11:33 PM

weather causes royals to drop from 1st..

thx weather!

Deberg_1990 05-03-2013 11:45 PM

It's a franchise that hasn't been any good for 20 years, and no playoffs in 28 years. It's honestly amazing they still have fans. There is a lot more competition for entertainment dollars since the era when they were truly good.

Nightfyre 05-04-2013 07:55 AM

Isn't Dwyer finally becoming the pitcher we always hoped he would. I haven't had time to watch MiLB games yet this year, but it would seem to me based on his stat line that he is finally breaking through despite the promotion to AAA.

Nightfyre 05-04-2013 07:57 AM

Also, David Lough is RAKING in AAA. That's interesting because I did not notice that before.

BlackHelicopters 05-04-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9656268)
This actually makes a lot of sense when you consider that FSKC has been killing the ratings so far. There's no doubt that the fans are getting into this team.

Both fans at Wednesday's game were into the team.

Kidd Lex 05-04-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9656517)
Also, David Lough is RAKING in AAA. That's interesting because I did not notice that before.

Goodbye Frenchy, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Three7s 05-04-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 9656551)
Goodbye Frenchy, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Ned Yost: "What? Get that talk out of here! Frenchy is one of the main clogs in our lineup and clubhouse! True leader."

LMAO

Kidd Lex 05-04-2013 08:29 AM

Frenchy's got grit. Yost loves grit. :bang::bang:

TLO 05-04-2013 08:49 AM

I've got grit. I played baseball is HS as an outfielder. I'm pretty fast and had a good throwing arm. I also have a good smile and would be a good clubhouse guy. Can I play RF for the Royals?

siberian khatru 05-04-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9656318)
As great as Santana has been this year, I would not want to sign him to a lucrative long-term deal.

He has been so up-and-down throughout his career, I'd be nervous to do something like that. Those are the types of guys that can hamstring a small-market like Kansas City for YEARS if they go bad.

As far as trade pieces...

Here are guys who could be "headliners" in a big deal:

1) Kyle Zimmer. Doesn't profile as a true ace (Verlander/Kershaw/King Felix), but then only a few minor league guys have that type of upside. Profiles just fine as someone with James Shields/Zack Greinke level potential. Highly unlikely to be traded for anything but a young player controlled for multiple years with star potential.

2) Yordano Ventura. Stuff and results are great, and his durability has been just fine. Electric arm. Could be moved, but the Royals love him.

3) Miguel Almonte. Recent reports have placed this guy on the same level as Zimmer as a prospect. Very similar to Julio Teheran in terms of stuff and potential. More moveable, I think.

4) Adalberto Mondesi. He's so far away, his trade value isn't as high as it should be. Still, a 17 year old playing full season ball and slugging .150 points higher than his BA (current totals) while also playing defense that will stick and be above average at SS? Yes, please. Least likely player to get moved.

5) Bubba Starling. Crazy upside is still there, and he's starting to hit now at Lexington. Only question is hit tool. Everything else is easy plus.


6) Orlando Calixte. Middle infielder with big power potential. Not sure he can stick at SS, but he hasn't proven he can't. Early returns at Northwest Arkansas have been mixed with the bat. Doesn't have the same value as the other 4, who are all top 50 types.

7) Jorge Bonifacio. Big-time hit tools and power potential aplenty, he's performing well in a tough hitter's environment (Wilmington). Less positional value but better bat than Calixte.

There are a host of guys that can be added/subtracted to get to a deal for a more major piece:

Chris Dwyer
Christian Colon
Angel Baez
Sam Selman
Kyle Smith
Bryan Brickhouse
Cameron Gallagher
Jason Adam
Cheslor Cuthbert
Johnny Giavotella
Will Smith
Donnie Joseph


Duncan, play GM.

You can acquire BOTH David DeJesus (to platoon with Frenchy) AND Chase Utley. Both could be available in June. I think that would significantly upgrade the offense without breaking the bank long-term fiscally or in terms of young talent.

Would you make those deals? If so, what would you trade to get them?

alnorth 05-04-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9656265)
That stings, how long are we attached to that abomination of a deal again?

2019. We can go to market for the 2020 season. Our horrible TV contract pays $20MM/yr. The Indians for example are getting $40MM/yr.

Kidd Lex 05-04-2013 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9656611)
2019. We can go to market for the 2020 season. Our horrible TV contract pays $20MM/yr. The Indians for example are getting $40MM/yr.

Well maybe, just maybe, GMDM will turn Jonathan Sanchez (this tv deal), into Guthrie (new tv deal) by trading.....what?! 2019!! Yes we are ****ed.


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