ChiefsPlanet - Mizzou Basketball

They lost over 60 ppg from last year, and since that team couldn't beat VCU, I don't see why KU fans would have high expectations going into the season. Thomas Robinson was 6th in PPG and 2nd in rebounds on the team last year, and despite KU's success this year, they're like 295th in the country in bench points. I don't think he deserves COY over Hoiberg, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to mention his name.

The hyperbole is entertaining though... whiny bunch today.

Yes, your hyperbole about it being unreasonable to even mention his name is laughable. Nobody said anything close to that, not that KU fans care about Mizzou.

Imon Yourside

03-05-2012 02:52 PM

I will predict what KK will say after his current line of smack dies down...

"No one is upset that Martin voted for Self, it's obvious FM didn't really see stiff competition between MU and Kstate having beaten them twice."

Bambi

03-05-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419351)

KK's ratings have been in the toilet for a while now. He's always been a bit of a shit stirrer, but he's had to take it to a new level in the past year.

I'll admit that I was jealous of Nebraska last year and liked listening to KK bag on them, so maybe it works. The difference is that you can alienate the Nebraska fanbase and not lose many listeners in KC. I don't think that's true of Mizzou.

Its not like there's anything else interesting about his show. Smoke and Fire commercials, the Racing Boys, and soon to be bitching about putting up screens at Kaufman Stadium for 2 hours a day now that baseball season is around the corner.

I listen to 810 until 2:00 and switch to 610 (if I'm listening to the radio).

He lights up Twitter and the other local media more than anyone else and it isn't even close.

Well....maybe Jack Harry that is

mnchiefsguy

03-05-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8419442)

The tradition of Kansas basketball gets the other 50% ? Self is a damn fine coach, but:

Kids don't go to Missouri for their tremendous basketball program and it's history. They go because they can't get into KU, Duke, NC, etc. These schools will always have the upper hand in recruiting, no matter who the coaches are.

What Self did with his cast of The best player in college basketball and remaining 4-5star recruits was as expected. What Haith did with his last minute lineup was outstanding.

Plus, everyone seems to have forgotten that Bowers was considered close to or equal to Denmon in importance to this team going into the season. So Haith had to overcome a season ending injury to a key starter as well.

Saul Good

03-05-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419441)

He recruited them in preparation for a year like this. He should be credited with that, yes.

That's an idiotic POV. What he did in 2009 should have no bearing on what he did this year from a coaching standpoint.

Bambi

03-05-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419424)

He recruited them this year? It was a single season award, right?

Haith was given a complete team that has appeared in the tourney 3 years in a row.

Saul Good

03-05-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419455)

He lights up Twitter and the other local media more than anyone else and it isn't even close.

Well....maybe Jack Harry that is

Too bad he doesn't light up Arbitron.

mnchiefsguy

03-05-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419441)

He recruited them in preparation for a year like this. He should be credited with that, yes.

Seems like before this year, KU fans were bitching high and low about how Self had fallen short in the recruiting area over the last couple of years.

DeezNutz

03-05-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419482)

Too bad he doesn't light up Arbitron.

His ratings have really dipped below that whiny wannabe on 610? Now that is embarrassing.

Bearcat

03-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419451)

Yes, your hyperbole about it being unreasonable to even mention his name is laughable. Nobody said anything close to that, not that KU fans care about Mizzou.

DJ's post was about KU/COTY.
My post was about KU.
The discussion is about COTY.

When did I 'care' about MU?

mnchiefsguy

03-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419481)

Haith was given a complete team that has appeared in the tourney 3 years in a row.

Haith was given a team that was picked fourth or fifth in the conference WITH Bowers in the line up. He turned a border line top 25 team into a top 5 team in the country....Self had much more in the cupboard than Haith did.

DJ's left nut

03-05-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8419396)

Our sixth man is a walk on, just fyi.

Naadir Tharpe is a 4-star coming off your bench. Your 5 starters are all 4 stars or better.

But hey, you have to make due with a scrappy, white 3-point shooter coming first off your bench, so clearly it's been a huge mountain for you to climb. You have a walk-on 6th man; huzzah. Our 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th man are walk-ons - do we get a medal for that?

Like I said, the narrative around this KU squad is ridiculous. We're all supposed to bow to Bill Self because he only has 6 4-star guys on his roster. Boo - ****ing - hoo.

|Zach|

03-05-2012 03:02 PM

Honestly who gives a ****.

Mizzou will have a good but prob not great run and Kansas will lose to a Missouri Valley team.

Or maybe not. Lets just keep playing basketball. JFC.

Bambi

03-05-2012 03:02 PM

KK has only dropped below 610 because 610 has the Royals games which skew the numbers during the afternoon timeslot. This is pretty common knowledge and was discussed a year or so ago when 610 got the contract.

eazyb81

03-05-2012 03:02 PM

@GottliebShow
Frank Haith is AP national COY, not one of two Big 12 COYs--- now that is interesting

LMAO at the petty Big Leftovers.

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