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Calcountry 06-21-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bogie
If a criminal breaks in to my house and I'm holding a shot gun in another room and I yell out to the criminal "hey, I have a gun, I don't want to kill you, but in 5 seconds I'm going to!" and then I rack my shot gun really loud and the person runs away, is that protecting myself with violence, or non-violence?

No, but it is protecting yourself with a credible and undeniable threat of violence.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
And you're relying on a superficial reading for people to think being 'reduced' to 'arguing semantics' is the same as 'arguing irrelevancies.'
You posited that hate clouded my judgment, and supported that position by my admitted dislike of you personally. Well that might suffice to establish subordinate issue of 'hate.' But it says nothing about the primary issue of clouded judgment. You've done nothing to prove that, outside of asserting it, and I've provide unequivocal evidence to the contrary.

That is preposterous and you know it. If you were prosecuting a defendent that you had had provable acrimony with before this case, the defense would make a motion to strike you as the prosecuting attorney because of an obvious conflict of interest that would cloud your better judgment. What unequivocal evidence have you proved?? You've shown absolutely nothing.

bogie 06-21-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
No, but it is protecting yourself with a credible and undeniable threat of violence.

Cool, it's the best of both worlds.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
Now you have direct experience with with school terrorists? ROFL OK I guess you don't refer to yourself as Hamas for nothing. ROFL

Your example has nothing to do with defending yourself when being assaulted instead of having to run and snitch or get expelled. What a ludicrous example.

As far as guns go there are 2.5 million successful defensive gun uses in this country every year. There are only 35k deaths by gun in this country every year including cops shootin criminals, gang on gang violence and suicide. I knew you would be on the wrong side of this issue. I think we should start shooting people who try and take our guns away. Forcing us to live through what has happened in England and Australia simply shouldn't be an option.

How blindly obtuse can you be?? I'm glad you find it so funny that dozens of teenagers were placed in the way of a potentially deadly explosion, yet you find it a damnable offense that a group of people don't want specific dogs in their community.

Show me where I said we should take our guns away, you dumb fuck. I only said that if you use a gun you are more likely to be killed, you then jumped to the conclusion that I am against private ownership of guns. Actually, I have no problem with it. If you get shot because you had a gun in your home, that's a choice that you made that had dangerous ramifications, and you paid the price for it. I'd like to see your source for the 2.5 million successful defensive gun uses, surely that wasn't provided by the NRA. Does shooting at a pack of coyotes going after sheep count as a successful gun defense? Are you really dumb enough to believe that nearly 1% of all Americans fire a gun at someone else to defend themselves every year?? To you have any idea of the sheer mountains of paperwork and litigation that would involve, if in fact it were true, which it no doubt isn't??

Calcountry 06-21-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bogie
Cool, it's the best of both worlds.

Yep, that it is. Nothing like firing a round of shot over the head of some asswipe who doesn't get it when you put the first round in the chamber.

FAX 06-21-2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
Amen.

So, Fax. Are you a theologian?

:D

No, Mr. bunnytrdr. Just a guy relentlessly chasing down truth, justice, and good pie wherever that pursuit may lead.

I don't know why I even posted on this dumbass thread. I guess I've just had a bellyfull of the shallow naiveté laid down by some people in an attempt to present themselves as wise and informed.

My biggest concern right now is coming up with the proof necessary to demonstrate that Tony G. actually has redefined the position of tight end in the NFL.

FAX

Calcountry 06-21-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX
No, Mr. bunnytrdr. Just a guy relentlessly chasing down truth, justice, and good pie wherever that pursuit may lead.

I don't know why I even posted on this dumbass thread. I guess I've just had a bellyfull of the shallow naiveté laid down by some people in an attempt to present themselves as wise and informed.

My biggest concern right now is coming up with the proof necessary to demonstrate that Tony G. actually has redefined the position of tight end in the NFL.

FAX

O.K. Mr. Fax, as you wish.

I believe, that it was a confluence of events, of which Tony G happened to be at the center of, that redefined the position. ;)

FAX 06-21-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
O.K. Mr. Fax, as you wish.

I believe, that it was a confluence of events, of which Tony G happened to be at the center of, that redefined the position. ;)

That's a pretty interesting thought, actually. Thanks.

I've looked at the stats and, so far at least, am unable to find anything that would reasonably confirm that he did, in fact, redefine the position from a performance standpoint. At first, I thought that he would have had a longer ypc average which would be reflective of greater athleticism, but that's not the case. He's only near the top in that category. Then, I looked at size in the position, but nothing stands out there either.

I hate to admit it, but I think Mr. milkman may turn out to be right about this. Unless, of course, I can construct a compelling argument around your theory.

FAX

noa 06-21-2006 06:49 PM

Hey FAX, where in the New Testament does Jesus talk about homosexuality?

Jesus 06-21-2006 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by noa949
Hey FAX, where in the New Testament does Jesus talk about homosexuality?

I didn't talk about lots of things. I never addressed a whole host of sins, directly. The Old Testament teachings are pretty clear on it already. Because I neglected to address it doesn't mean I approve. Afterall, I only lived 33 yrs. Why should I have been redundant? Whatever I didn't change, stayed the same. Regardless, Paul cleared it up in his letters--in case anyone had any doubts.

Logical 06-21-2006 09:35 PM

Good for Schori, progress is slow but it will happen.:thumb:

|Zach| 06-21-2006 09:52 PM

Quite a thread.

Logical 06-21-2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
bet you would if she was pimping pitbulls.






ROFL ROFL

:clap::clap:

noa 06-21-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus
I didn't talk about lots of things. I never addressed a whole host of sins, directly. The Old Testament teachings are pretty clear on it already. Because I neglected to address it doesn't mean I approve. Afterall, I only lived 33 yrs. Why should I have been redundant? Whatever I didn't change, stayed the same. Regardless, Paul cleared it up in his letters--in case anyone had any doubts.


So I'm confused Jesus. Should we follow what the Old Testament says or not? If we're supposed to follow everything in the Old Testament except what you directly challenged, then I think we're all in a lot of trouble.

Rausch 06-21-2006 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Now you're reduced to arguing semantics to avoid the inevitable plunge off the cliff of sanity...

We had a good conversation going on last night, is it worth looking back 3-4 pages to keep up?...


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