Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5661848)

Any rookie is a risk because the college game is so different from the pros, and QB is the riskiest of the positions, and hardest to evaluate. The odds are good that Sanchez or Stafford will flame out, they both could. That's why everyone points back the 1983 QB class as such an amazing story, because of how rare it is to get 3 great QB's in one class. In 1999 there were 5 QB's taken in the first round only one has turned out to be really good, while another is just hanging on in the league.

I think you have less than a 50/50 shot that a first round QB will be a reliable starter in the NFL.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5660650)

Or it's that they're from the Belichick/Parcells style of thinking which prefers guys they personally like and are familiar with over anything else.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5661887)

Its about 70% success rate for a top 5 pick at QB.
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5661887)

Its about 70% success rate for a top 5 pick at QB.
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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5660881)

That's quite "Tebowish" of you Sauto, and it inspires miles of confidence in my football-loving soul. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 5661855)

Why not support our team/decisions and wait till they have actually played a few games before we make these assumptions? Jeez :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5661837)

Not really. That just means the odds that Cassel is more than a game manager are pretty small. That doesn't mean they're non-existent, or that he can't/won't be more than that.

And a game manager would still be a significant upgrade from anyone else on the roster, assuming he's at least that much.

I don't think it's a bad trade for the price, it just wasn't the move I'd have made. But I can live with it.

We just better hope he's not Scott Mitchell.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5661967)

how many "game managers" have MULTIPLE 400+ yard games??? and in his first year starting

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5661982)

Did you watch either of those games?

I recall a play in each of those:

One was a short pass to Welker who made someone miss and ran for over 60 yards before being push OOB.

Another was a similar play to Sam Aiken, who ran for close to 50.

Cassel led the league in yards after the catch. Let's not make it out like he's the one responsible for these mammoth yardage numbers.

Oh, and they were 1-1 in those 2 games.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5661987)

EVERY qb has RAC #s, EVERY ONE, why not find a qb that has thrown for 400+ with NO WR taking a short pass and turning it into a long one. and yes i watched BOTH. but back to the RAC if you watched his games he is EXCELLENT at leading his Wrs and putting the ball to them when they have the opportunity to run.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5661991)

Of course every QB benefits from YAC.

But as the stats prove, none did like Cassel.

IIRC, close to 60% of his yardage was gained after the catch.

(I'd love to see that link again, I can't find it, and I don't have a STATS, Inc account)

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5662006)

my point is that MAYBE some of the YAC was BECAUSE of cassell's ball placement. some of that(alot IMO) is on him , just as much as the WRs

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5662018)

How much did those same recievers have in 2007? Welker = yac.


PhilFree:arrow:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5662006)

my point is that MAYBE some of the YAC was BECAUSE of cassell's ball placement. some of that(alot IMO) is on him , just as much as the WRs

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5662018)

How much did those same recievers have in 2007? Welker = yac.


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