Originally Posted by arc (Post 5817974)

To go completely off-topic here (hey - it'w the offseason), I have to ask - is the Jason Sauto thing a running gag? I saw it all through the draft discussions.

Since the guy is a mechanic with his own shop IIRC, I assumed the username meant Jason's Auto, like the name of his shop. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5817972)

Do not discount for one moment the level of suck that KC's O-Line is capable of.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5817962)

I'm sure you've already seen the youtube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctvPzDMfp0
Half of those plays are definitely short, gimme passes to a wide open receiver (usually Welker). But pay attention to the other half. For as good as the receivers are, the majority of the passes were perfectly placed balls. I was especially impressed with his command of when to lead a receiver and when to get it into his back shoulder.

I realize it's a highlight reel and you see the good, but not the bad. But it should be reassuring that there are enough highlights where you can clearly see his ability to put the ball in a perfect spot. I still believe that his offensive line handicapped him a lot more than people realize and I still believe that if the Chiefs can one day put a real offensive line in front of him and he can consistently step into his throws, he will have tremendous upside.

I don't buy into the inaccuracy stuff. I think people say that because he doesn't throw a real pretty deep ball. But from what I've seen, when he has an opportunity to set his feet, he throws a really hard, accurate ball.

Originally Posted by arc (Post 5817974)

To go completely off-topic here (hey - it'w the offseason), I have to ask - is the Jason Sauto thing a running gag? I saw it all through the draft discussions.

Since the guy is a mechanic with his own shop IIRC, I assumed the username meant Jason's Auto, like the name of his shop. :shrug:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5817992)

Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5817992)

Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5818157)

It will certainly be interesting to watch. Last year Bradley got some UNGODLY separation. Just rediculous. And then Thigpen woudl throw an equally rediculous (except bad) ball. It could have been part of the gimicky offense, but on several plays the dude was wide the **** open. And Bowe can be difficult to bring down. I think there is potential there to be some YAC. But getting the ball out accurately with our line can be tough.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5817992)

Like I said, I think he is accurate.

I'm just not convinces that all that YAC is the result of his accuracy, rather the skill and separation of his WR's and RB's.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5818164)

No, the YAC isn't all the result of accuracy.

However, the terrible YAC numbers the Chiefs put up is almost entirely the result of poorly thrown balls.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5818169)

That's not entirely true.

The Pats line over the years have looked better than they actually are because of Tom Brady's pocket presense, and his uncanny ability to slide away from pressure.

But they weren't as bad as they appeared last because Cassel did take too long on his reads and held onto the ball too long.

That improved as the year progressed, but he still has plenty of room for improvement.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5818179)

i'll assume that you meant to qoute me, watching the games the limemen were OWNED many times, cassel did hold the ball too long sometimes, most qbs do sometimes, and he may have done it more often than others, BUT the line didnt do him many favors IMO

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5818188)

Yes, the line did look bad compared to previous years, and I am not laying the blame on Cassel for their failures.

I am just pointing out that they weren't as bad as you painted them.

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5818202)

All of the football minds in this thread(and there are some good ones), and not ONE of you have figured out my greatest advantage in this bet.

I'm a little disappointed fellas.

You'll figure it out eventually though.