Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5818304)

What if the chair were infinitely strong (and frictionless)?

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818308)

As the wheel exert force against the treadmill due to the engine's thrust, the treadmill exerts an equal and opposite force against the wheels. This causes the wheels to roll. It also causes the free-spinning treadmill to roll in the opposite direction.

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Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 5818316)

so, you are saying that the jet engines are powering the wheels? :spock:


A jet powered by it's wheels might take off, but it will never fly... ;)

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818319)

Well, yeah. That's exactly my point. The plane will never fly.

Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 5818324)

did you know that jets are not propelled by their wheels?

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818190)

ALL of the plane's movement along the ground MUST go through the wheels. They MUST roll or slide* - whatever else are you imagining they do while this plane is mystically moving forward? And as they roll or slide, they exert force on the ground/treadmill - if the ground/treadmill moves freely, it will match the plane's "movement" and the plane remains in place.

I'm going to repeat this, because no one has even attempted an answer - ALL of the plane's movement along the ground MUST go through the wheels. They MUST roll or slide - whatever else are you imagining they do while this plane is mystically moving forward?

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818143)

The wheels simply MUST keep up with the rest of the plane or you get this:


http://www.airportpress.us/archive/v...p4art1pic2.jpg

BIMAN BANGLADESH MISHAP CLOSES AIRPORT
A Biman Bangladesh Airlines Airbus A310-300 has been involved in a take-off accident at Dubai International Airport, resulting in a temporary closure of the Gulf airport. The A310 – one of four operated by the airline, according to Flight’s ACAS database – was operating a service to Dhaka. Some reports suggest the aircraft suffered a tyre burst and/or nose-gear collapse during its take-off roll. Pictures of the accident show that the aircraft appears to have come to rest at the far end of Runway 12L with its nose gear collapsed.

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818327)

Of course. Did you know it really doesn't matter?

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818339)

* Consequences of failure to do so:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5818304)

What if the chair were infinitely strong (and frictionless)?

Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 5818344)

are you really fucking serious!?!?!? LMAOLMAOLMAO

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818356)

Yes, I am.

Answer this simple question, genius:


I'm going to repeat this, because no one has even attempted an answer - ALL of the plane's movement along the ground MUST go through the wheels. They MUST roll or slide - whatever else are you imagining they do while this plane is mystically moving forward?

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5818360)

They are rolling faster than the treadmill. Because they must (to account for the thrust of the engine).

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818356)

Yes, I am.

Answer this simple question, genius:


I'm going to repeat this, because no one has even attempted an answer - ALL of the plane's movement along the ground MUST go through the wheels. They MUST roll or slide - whatever else are you imagining they do while this plane is mystically moving forward?

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5818363)

They are not because they can't. They propel the treadmill. The energy from the engines' thrust moves the wheels and the treadmill equally.