That's what they are going to do. He's only coming up because a of an injury. Damn it Carl!

You realize we traded dog shit right? Seriously, you can't be poed about anything...Ankiel has 90 ****ing ab's and farnsworth is a career choker! I'll take a bag of chips for both.

This, I'm shocked ANYBODY wanted Ankiel after he missed almost 3 months, and history has shown Farnsworth will come back down to earth soon enough.

No, I'm not pissed about the trade...I was just explaining my initial reaction that I wasn't excited about the guys they got.

ok, that makes sense...Just take it for what it is, could be depth and possible potential, either way the royals win with ankiel and farnsworth no longer here. I would love to see a guillen waiver trade to a team, and the royals recieve a bag of balls.

Yeah, I'm more optimistic now that I've looked up the lefty's stats...I don't know why they even bothered trading for the two other terrible guys though. Just more roster space clogged with shit.

So apparently Meche has decided against surgery and wants to heal the injury

from ranys twitter

So now Gil Meche *won't* have surgery, and hopes rehab will get him back in September. I'm setting the odds that this works at 0.0000001%. about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck

WTF, shouldn't there some kind of clause in a big money contract like that to protect against a guy refusing surgery when it's obviously needed?

Meche is done as a royal, no way he starts again IMO....i'd say if anything he's a reliever. It sounds as if he does do surgery he'd be out most of next year anyway

Thanks Trey for letting meche destroy his arm

Moose Tacos just homered again today. That makes 3 homers in the last 8 abs. Dreaming ahead to next year maybe we could see #'s like this


RF - David Dejesus .315 14 HRS
CF - Mitch Maier .270 10 HRS
1B - Billy Butler .325 20 HRS
DH - Kila Ka'aihue .285 25 HRS 100 walks
3B - Mike Moustakas .270 25 HRS
LF - Alex Gordon .275 25 HRS
C - Lucas May .270 13 HRS
SS - Acquisition
2B - Mike Aviles .290 12 HRS

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3B - Wilson Betemit
OF - Greger Blanco
2B - Chris Getz
SS - Yuniesky Betancourt

We seem to have an abundance of 3B and 1B/DH in the minors. Somebody is going to have to get moved eventually if the AAA guys end up being successful at the majors.

SS - Colon.

And I'm good with Aviles not playing.

Aviles hasn't show much of anything this year, im fine with him being in the minors

Lucas May is never going to be a starting catcher. Some guys will start to come up next year but the majority of the future is still another year or 2 away.

With Kendall blocking him, I can see why you'd think he couldn't start for KC.

Oops, he let it get to the screen.

Pitchers figured out that as long as you stay away from middle/in, he can't hurt you. I'm still shocked the guy can hit for a decent average with those mechanics. I tell my son to close his eyes every time Aviles comes to the plate.

Can Betemit play short? Lol

I just don't think colon is going to be ready anytime soon

Did you come to this conclusion from your extensive research and game film from his Dodgers' minor league career?

He ****ing better be. He's an advanced college bat and a player with, supposedly, elite baseball instincts.

If we don't see him next season, he damn well better be in KC in '12. College players are supposed to move relatively quickly. This is why a player like Crow has been such a ****ing disappointment this season. He should be in the pen for KC right now, and the fact that he's not is somewhat, not drastically but somewhat, disconcerting.

You could go read some takes on him from educated baseball people before you make a jackass remark because I made the comment.

I've read plenty of takes from educated baseball people since the trade and I haven't seen anyone say, "Lucas May is never going to be a starting catcher."

Care to link me to the article or message board you copied and pasted that post from?

He wont break spring training with the team or anything crazy like that, but I'm hoping he finishes this year in AA, quickly adjusts to AAA next year, and is ready to roll in 2012.

You’ve heard the reports that the Royals got Lucas May and Elisaul Pimentel, but don’t be confused – the Royals actually got Elisaul Pimentel and Lucas May. May gets the headlines because he’s in Triple-A and is almost major-league ready, but he’s clearly the lesser player in the deal. In fact, I’m not entirely convinced that he was worth acquiring at all.


May was in his eighth season with the Dodgers, during which time he had moved from shortstop to the outfield and finally to catcher, which he has been playing since 2007. He still plays like a converted catcher; this season is the first time that has allowed fewer than one passed ball every four games, and he’s thrown out just 19% of basestealers this year. (He did throw out 35% last year.)


Offensively, some people are looking at his .296/.352/.496 line in Triple-A this year and projecting him as a good-hitting catcher; I’ve even read some comments implying that if he can’t catch, he can serve as a DH. This is patently ridiculous. The Dodgers’ Triple-A affiliate is in the thin air of Albuquerque, which inflates the numbers of even the most marginal hitters. This year, May is hitting .347/.392/.603 at home; at parks closer to sea level, he’s hitting .252/.318/.403.


Baseball Prospectus does a great job (through their Davenport Translations) of converting the numbers of a minor-league player into his equivalent numbers in the major leagues, in a neutral ballpark. Based on May’s performance this year, if he had spent the year in the majors he could be expected to hit about .227/.278/.386. That’s backup-catcher material at best.


So what do you have, exactly? You have a catcher who can’t really catch, and can’t really hit, and is already 25. It’s always nice to have catching depth, I suppose, but in terms of the long-term future of the franchise May ranks no higher than fifth or sixth on the depth chart. If you want a catcher who can’t hit but can play defense, the Royals already have Manny Pina in Omaha. If you want a catcher who can’t play defense but can hit, Brayan Pena is already in the majors and is a better hitter than May. If you want a catcher who might develop into a two-way threat, the Royals have Salvador Perez in Wilmington. And if you want a catcher who might develop into a superstar, there’s always Wil Myers.


So what, exactly, does Lucas May do? I mean, other than take away at-bats from a younger, better player in Pina? He’s supposed to be a gamer and a leader on the field (he starred for Team USA last summer) and coachable and all that. Those are all great and wonderful things, but it doesn’t change the fact that he isn’t a better player than the guys the Royals already have, and likely never will be.

That's from Rany good enough?

Yeah, I agree. I don't think it would be surprising to see him in the second half of '11, though.

I just hope Colon can stay at SS

I am going to watch Duffy make his AA debut in Springfield tonight :rockon:

Good for you. Unless they play Kila, I would really rather watch the Omaha Royals or Naturals play now.

Yeah, there are a lot of exciting players in the minors. Hosmer is absolutely obliterating AA pitching so far. What are they going to do with the Butler/Kila/Hosmer first base cluster in a year or two? Somebody's gonna have to either play a different position or get traded. Or, I guess Kila could just keep riding the bench in the majors or winning the triple crown in AAA every year.

That is why Kila needs to play every single day so we know what we have or not.

Anybody know about how much are set for in guaranteed salaries next year? Guillen, Farnsworth, Ankiel, and Posednik should account for some free money I would think. Then who do we target? Maybe a #2 pitcher or RF?

You think they will actually spend that money?

Exactly.

Dayton's talk about 2014-15 should be a pretty nice indication that payroll will be low over the next several seasons. Please, forget all the bullshit promises told to taxpayers about a renovated stadium.

Montgomery on the hill tonight. First inning 1-2-3 7 pitches 7 strikes 1 k.

Tonight's Minor League Report:

Wilmington:
Colon 1/3, HR, 2 RBI, BB
Myers (DH) 3/5, 1 RBI, K

Northwest Arkansas
Montgomery 3 2/3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K's (No Decision)
Giavotella 3/3, 1 RBI, 1 3B, BB
Hosmer 0/4, K

Omaha
Moustakas 1/5, 1 RBI
Lucas May homered
Jai Miller homered twice.

Did I miss anyone?

I don't know if next year is going to be it... but the payroll is probably going to take a dip once we start getting some of these prospects up and playing. Just the nature of it. Although if all we're going to do is sign guys like Guillen and Kendall and Farnsworth maybe we're better off spending the money somewhere else.

I wonder if the Royals will finish poorly enough to have the #1 pick.

The Orioles are locked for #1 Pick

no. They are tied for 5th-worst, but Pittsburgh would be hard to catch for 2nd-worst. Being worse than Baltimore (11 games worse) would be damn near impossible at this point, especially given their division and ours.

Royals will **** up the #1 pick anyway

There's no question that will happen. However, it will be inexcusable if we don't make legit efforts to supplement the young talent with a high-quality FA acquisition or two.

And where is the proof that Moore can effectively evaluate ML talent? Soria? Ok. But there's far more evidence to the contrary.

Who are the notable free agents available in 2011 and 2012 as of right now?

He's a long way away, but Lane Adams at Idaho Falls is worth watching. He's an outfielder drafted out of an Oklahoma high school last year (20 years old). 6'4, 190 and an excellent basketball player (several D1 scholarship offers). I've read he's probably as close to a 5 tool OF we have in the system except perhaps P. Orlando.

I'd be hesitant to spend much on this year's FA crop. They can make a run at Crawford, but that ain't gonna happen. Werth is dangerous in my opinion. Cliff Lee is going to be a Yankee. I would have to look at the FA class again, though, beyond that.

I would be OK with locking up Butler and possibly DeJesus, then spending wildly in the draft (this class is loaded).

Losing into the no 3 draft spot would be nice. That would guarantee being able to get one of Purke, Rendon or Cole... All of whom would be a better use of 6 million than a middling FA, in my opinion.

This.

He has shown a penchant for developing the Minor League System. However, that does not make one an effective Major League GM. He has given us PLENTY of evidence to the contrary. My personal opinion............he is in WAY the **** over his little pin head.

What do you mean by "making a run" at Crawford?

First, I agree with the overall premise that the FA class is weak. But I'm throwing serious cash at Crawford (6/108, opening bid) and Adam Dunn (3/45, opening bid).

We have a better chance at Dunn, obviously, but I'd want to try to keep the deal to 3 years, if at all possible.

you have to give dayton some credit on Pods. He is having a good year, and was flipped for young players

You have to grab Dunn, he can get on base and well jack 20+ hr's easy

Dunn would make a lot of sense for this team. Put him at #4 and then Butterball's fat ass doesn't need to worry about muscling up, and MooseTacos can hit 6-8 in the order and not feel like he has to be a power guy.

Plus, it would be nice to see the all-time HR record fall...

Dunn's career OPS+ is ****ing 133. What is that worth? I'm starting at 3 for 45 and willing to go 3 for 54 or 4 for 60.

Agreed. And we can have someone in the HR Derby at the K in 2012.

Adding him would give us a respectable order:

1. De Jesus (CF)
2. Aviles (2B)
3. Butler (1B)
4. Dunn (RF)
5. Kila (DH)
6. Moustakas (3B)
7. Gordon (LF)
8. Pena (C) Lucas May?
9. Colon (SS)

And wait for Hosmer to take Kila's place, Myers to take Pena's.

I'm a Dunn fan too, but who was it here a year or two ago arguing vociferously that most of Dunn's production doesn't really count because it comes when his team is way ahead or way behind? I just couldn't buy it -- when you have THAT many walks and THAT many HRs, a lot are going to help you. But he was pretty adamant that Dunn was a statistical mirage.

I like the order. I would like to be able to flip Gordon and Kila, though. You make a great point about the All-Star Game. Excellent point and one that should be a very real consideration for Moore and Glass.

I'm not remembering that...Like you, though, I don't buy it. If I know someone is going to hit 35 HRs, I'll take my chances about when they come. But Dayton doesn't understand the value of the walk, so there's little chance we'll pursue Dunn.

Wait, where the hell is Getz, Blanco, Kendall and Fields in that lineup?

:evil:

Billy Butler is going to ****ing dumb in 2012. .333. 35 hr. 140 rbi's

Signing Crawford would be a big mistake. He is already 29 and is one of the more over rated players in the league. Why would the Royals sign another guy with no power and no ability to get on base? Yea, he can steal some bases, but that isn't worth 6 years and 108 million, at least not for the Royals. I'd much rather keep that money to sign Moose/Hosmer/Myers/anyoneofour23434leftypitchingprospects to long term deals the moment they show the ability to be an elite player, kind of like what the Rays did with Longoria.

He literally turned 29 today.

Last 5 seasons of OBP:
.348
.355
.319
.364
.359

And signing Crawford would not prevent us from locking up our young talent. Not saying ownership might not use it as an excuse...

Some potential FA's in 2011...guys who don't have options in 2011:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...-for-2011.html

Adam Dunn
Paul Konerko
Derrek Lee
Carlos Pena
Derek Jeter
John Buck LOL
Carl Crawford
Jose Guillen LOL
Jayson Werth
Josh Beckett
Cliff Lee
Ted Lilly
Tim Hudson
A bunch of relievers

I don't know how accurate that list is, so take it with a grain of salt.

Dunn as our #1 target. Crawford as #2.

according to wiki, josh beckett is signed through 2014

That's probably true...I think there are probably some errors on that page. My apologies.

I also like Jayson Werth. Dunn is clearly my favorite on the list, but Werth could be a good plan B because he's right-handed. With DDJ, Moose, Gordon, Kila around...a right-handed bat might bring good balance, although his power numbers are way down this year.

And those OBP numbers don't even put him in the top 40 in baseball(and the .319 number is just scary). In fact, this is his best year ever statistically and he can't even crack the top 40 in OPS. Dejesus puts up roughly the same numbers and costs half as much, and that's really the point. Speed guys who don't hit for power and have a mediocre OBP/OPS aren't all that tough to come by. Heck, this year, for 1.5 million, we got a guy who has just as many SB's as Crawford and had a .346 OBP to Crawford's career best .359. Is the extra 10 HR's crawford will hit this season worth 14 million more than the guy we had? On a team like the Royals, I don't think it is.

Good points. I could be wrong about this.

Will DDJ still be a Type A free agent despite his injury/missed time? If so, let him walk imo.

All this, especially when we're talking about a guy who's a left fielder only. If he were an elite defensive center fielder, desiring him would have more merit.

I don't think anyone knows, but that was the real kick in the nuts with the injury. Most casual fans only understood that it took away the trade option, but it may have also cost us the Type A/draft picks option as well.

Jose Guillen
Jason Kendall

Yeah, you're right. Let's just let Blanco and Bloomquist platoon out there. They're way better.

Guillen DFA. Per 810.

They're not really DHing Bloomy tonight are they?

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Humber called up to replace Guillen.

awesome!!!

Soren said bloomquist is penciled in as DH.

I guess that Posey trade fell through.

It was a joke. Just a little haha, since there is no game tonight.

Joke or not it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they actually did it

Yeah, 610 just sent me an email confirming it.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass JG.

Guillen's DFA is like the crowning of a cake.

ROFLROFLROFL

I'll give DM credit for cutting his losses now, because I was deathly afraid he was going to hang on to him most of this month hoping he still could swing a deal.