Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9143347)

If that's your standard then Andrew Luck was a risk. A big risk.

**** dude.

The guy was 19 years old and was kicking the shit out of it as a sophomore. Smith was a Parade All-American as a prep, is a three year starter in two different systems and has put up exceptional numbers every year.

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick because nobody thought he could do it on the next level.

Half the league scouting directors and GM's thought Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton Manning.

What the **** are you wanting? You want to wait around for the next John Elway/Andrew Luck?

(And I think Smith has a lot of those qualities that those particular two individuals possessed. He's got as many tools for the position at his level as I've seen in the past two decades. I'm ready to take the chance on a guy and Smith is as good as a chance as I've seen that the Chiefs have had in a long, long time.)

Geno Smith has kicked ass every chance he's had and has improved his individual game every single year.

I'll take Smith, right here, right now. If he doesn't work out, so be it, but he's got the tools to be a stud. You never know how it plays out at the next level, but he's a guy you take that chance with.

Reps in the pass game, the accuracy, the release, the pocket presence, the prototype size, the arm, the leadership, the work ethic, the smarts.

No disrespect, but if you don't like Geno Smith as a prospect, especially as a Chiefs fan, whose QB situation sits between dire and destitute, then you are a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9143347)

If that's your standard then Andrew Luck was a risk. A big risk.

**** dude.

The guy was 19 years old and was kicking the shit out of it as a sophomore. Smith was a Parade All-American as a prep, is a three year starter in two different systems and has put up exceptional numbers every year.

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick because nobody thought he could do it on the next level.

Half the league scouting directors and GM's thought Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton Manning.

What the **** are you wanting? You want to wait around for the next John Elway/Andrew Luck?

(And I think Smith has a lot of those qualities that those particular two individuals possessed. He's got as many tools for the position at his level as I've seen in the past two decades. I'm ready to take the chance on a guy and Smith is as good as a chance as I've seen that the Chiefs have had in a long, long time.)

Geno Smith has kicked ass every chance he's had and has improved his individual game every single year.

I'll take Smith, right here, right now. If he doesn't work out, so be it, but he's got the tools to be a stud. You never know how it plays out at the next level, but he's a guy you take that chance with.

Reps in the pass game, the accuracy, the release, the pocket presence, the prototype size, the arm, the leadership, the work ethic, the smarts.

No disrespect, but if you don't like Geno Smith as a prospect, especially as a Chiefs fan, whose QB situation sits between dire and destitute, then you are a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9143661)

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But, but, but TOOOOOOOOOOOO RISKYYYYYYYYY!!!!!! Might start a season 1-9 and not have a lead for 2 months

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9143675)

Pgm... As much shit as I get for saying he's too risky (which isn't even true. I've said he's worth the risk) I have consistently shown that I am very patient to wait for a player to develop under the system while the majority of people on cp throw a guy under the bus if he's not nails right away.

It's because people set these ridiculous expectations. I want the chiefs to draft geno. I expect him to struggle a lot early. Not Andrew luck "I'm going to struggle every now and then." I think it might take 2 or 3 years to grow into the role. Because he isn't as nfl ready as so many people here want to pretend he is. I knew luck and rgIII would produce right away.

Cp is a funny place. They will call dontari Poe a bust because he hasn't been all world in a year we knew he would struggle, yet they will treat mark Sanchez and Ryan tannehill like the next coming of the messiah for very, very average qb play to prove a point that we passed on them.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9143675)

Pgm... As much shit as I get for saying he's too risky (which isn't even true. I've said he's worth the risk) I have consistently shown that I am very patient to wait for a player to develop under the system while the majority of people on cp throw a guy under the bus if he's not nails right away.

It's because people set these ridiculous expectations. I want the chiefs to draft geno. I expect him to struggle a lot early. Not Andrew luck "I'm going to struggle every now and then." I think it might take 2 or 3 years to grow into the role. Because he isn't as nfl ready as so many people here want to pretend he is. I knew luck and rgIII would produce right away.

Cp is a funny place. They will call dontari Poe a bust because he hasn't been all world in a year we knew he would struggle, yet they will treat mark Sanchez and Ryan tannehill like the next coming of the messiah for very, very average qb play to prove a point that we passed on them.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9143682)

There's nothing strange about the dislike for Poe on this forum since many view him as a sub-par talent from the jump. Thus, waiting on him to develop is an exercise in futility because he'll never suddenly become more talented.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9143687)

About Dontari Poe, some Chiefs fans don't like him because he didn't produce in college but while he was supposed to be really raw in his early NFL career and he is to some extent, he has arguably produced just as much as the likes of Raji and Ngata in their rookie season.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9143667)

Jfc. I've said a million times I would draft geno at #1 in a heartbeat. Somehow people get shit around here if you say one thing negative about a guy you like overall. I think he's worth the risk but I'm not going to be unrealistic about the fact that he is a risk.

I'm sorry... But it's idiotic for anyone to throw luck and rgIII into the discussion. Please stop. Those guys were blue chip prospects. Geno is a nice prospect but he isn't anywhere their level. That shouldn't stop the chiefs from drafting them. But let's stop with any bs that any team would in a million years consider drafting geno above either of those two guys.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9143801)

I don't think you can read, either that our you just make shit up.


I have never seen anyone here say anything remotely close to saying Geno would ever be above RG3 or luck
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9143801)

I don't think you can read, either that our you just make shit up.


I have never seen anyone here say anything remotely close to saying Geno would ever be above RG3 or luck
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9143847)

There are people trying to downplay how much Genos non-rgIII athleticism changes how attractive the prospect is. And there are plenty of people suggesting geno is the same as a pure pocket passer prospect as rgIII. Don't agree with that either. RgIII is constantly brought up in conversations. All the time. Luck not as much, but saccopoo brought him up to say he has downside risk as a pocket passer.

Nobody said geno would be better. But there are lots of people implying that rgIIIs success shows that geno will succeed. Bs. They are different players and geno will need to succeed in a totally different way. We need to stop bringing rgIII into conversations. If they were in the same draft class, rgIII would have been blue chip and geno would be a distant second.