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mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8419968)
I don't know why everyone is so upset about this.


MU just had the best year in it's history and has a real chance to make some noise. Your coach didn't get voted Coach of the year, probably because schools are butthurt or thought Hoiberg or Self did a better job.

I'm happy for the guys who won the awards, but without more wins in March, these mean little.

I don't think most folks are upset by it. Haith got COTY from the AP, Self and Hoiberg won the COTY from the league coaches.

KU fans seem to be a bit defensive in justifying their guy getting COTY....and Wickedson somehow sees a vote for Hoiberg as a slight against Bill Self, but other that, it is really more of a non-issue on a slow sports day as everyone awaits the Big XII tourney and March Madness.

stonedstooge 03-05-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8419976)
If Haith would have won in the Phog, won the Big12 then he would have gotten COTY and Self wouldn't have. It's that simple.

But he didn't. And MU fans are crying about it.

There are arguments as to why Self deserves it, and there are arguments as to why Haith deserves it.

Haith did get the AP COTY Award

duncan_idaho 03-05-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8419968)
I don't know why everyone is so upset about this.


MU just had the best year in it's history and has a real chance to make some noise. Your coach didn't get voted Coach of the year, probably because schools are butthurt or thought Hoiberg or Self did a better job.

I'm happy for the guys who won the awards, but without more wins in March, these mean little.

Good post, but just to nip it in the bud...

This was not the best year in Mizzou history. In recent history, yes...

But I would put 93-94 - when they went undefeated in conference and won the league - the second and third Stipo and Sundvold team, and the 76-77 team above this one in terms of "best ever."

Have to win the conference (or do something in the tournament never done before by that school) to call it 'best year ever,' IMO.

O.city 03-05-2012 06:49 PM

I wasn't meaning to be offensive at all.

I was just saying that these awards are just that, awards. It's cool for the guys who got them and that they had great seasons, but I'm ready to move on to March.

Mr. Plow 03-05-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419981)
I don't think most folks are upset by it. Haith got COTY from the AP, Self and Hoiberg won the COTY from the league coaches.

KU fans seem to be a bit defensive in justifying their guy getting COTY....and Wickedson somehow sees a vote for Hoiberg as a slight against Bill Self, but other that, it is really more of a non-issue on a slow sports day as everyone awaits the Big XII tourney and March Madness.


At least for myself, the only thing I see as funny is the whole "OH NOES!!11! THE BIG LEFTOVER CRYBABIES DON'T WANT ANY MU PLAYER/COACH GETTING AWARDS!!1!1!"

Haith is deserving, no question. Self is too and Hoiberg is as well. I know I wouldn't have been upset to see Self not get it. He had a hell of a year, but there were also 2 others very deserving of it.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8420174)
At least for myself, the only thing I see as funny is the whole "OH NOES!!11! THE BIG LEFTOVER CRYBABIES DON'T WANT ANY MU PLAYER/COACH GETTING AWARDS!!1!1!"

Haith is deserving, no question. Self is too and Hoiberg is as well. I know I wouldn't have been upset to see Self not get it. He had a hell of a year, but there were also 2 others very deserving of it.

I think it seems obvious what happened. Everyone not affiliated with the Big 12 laughed and threw their hands up.

If you didn't have a dog in this issue then it came off as silly and petty. It was that obvious. I have enjoyed how the B12 came off in the whole thing.

Mr. Plow 03-05-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8420199)
I think it seems obvious what happened. Everyone not affiliated with the Big 12 laughed and threw their hands up.

If you didn't have a dog in this issue then it came off as silly and petty. It was that obvious. I have enjoyed how the B12 came off in the whole thing.


I know you're not slanted toward one team or the other, but you're saying that neither Self nor Hoiberg deserved it I guess. Oh well....like I said, any of them were deserving.

Captain Obvious 03-05-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8420154)
I wasn't meaning to be offensive at all.

I was just saying that these awards are just that, awards. It's cool for the guys who got them and that they had great seasons, but I'm ready to move on to March.

Yeah, and calling it The Paige wasn't trolling either.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8420213)
I know you're not slanted toward one team or the other, but you're saying that neither Self nor Hoiberg deserved it I guess. Oh well....like I said, any of them were deserving.

Self? No problem.

Hoiberg? Meh. And I don't feel like I am shitting on him or looking down at thr amazing job he has done but these are guys that are being measured against each other. Haith swept him.

O.city 03-05-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8420221)
Yeah, and calling it The Paige wasn't trolling either.

Some in here calling AFH the Phraud, when KU has lost 1 game there in the last 4 or 5 years.


Sorry.


EDIT: this is a MU thread. I apologize for getting emotional about the situation. Sorry about the Paige comment.

kstater 03-05-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8419486)
His ratings have really dipped below that whiny wannabe on 610? Now that is embarrassing.

IIRC, Wright beat Kietz 1 month in one category in March of 2011, hasn't done it since I don't think.

Here's the last 4 months.


WHB-AM 4.3 3.7 3.9 4.2
KCSP-AM 2.5 2.7 2.5 2.6

Pablo 03-05-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8420228)
Some in here calling AFH the Phraud, when KU has lost 1 game there in the last 4 or 5 years.


Sorry.


EDIT: this is a MU thread. I apologize for getting emotional about the situation. Sorry about the Paige comment.

LMAO

Don't apologize, brah.

O.city 03-05-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8420290)
LMAO

Don't apologize, brah.

Nah, I don't want to come in here and stir shit up.


I was out of line. I wouldn't like it if a MU fan did it in the KU thread.

Pablo 03-05-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8420294)
Nah, I don't want to come in here and stir shit up.


I was out of line. I wouldn't like it if a MU fan did it in the KU thread.

Uhhh...your diplomacy is noted but will be fruitless.

Troll to your heart's content.

O.city 03-05-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8420306)
Uhhh...your diplomacy is noted but will be fruitless.

Troll to your heart's content.

Nah alot of these MU guys are good guys. I don't wanna run in here and trash their thread.


I don't have the ultimate MU hate that some KU fans do. I like giving MU fans a hard time sometimes, but I like to see them do well.


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