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chiefzilla1501 11-23-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9144032)

Great selective highlighting.

Saccopoo 11-23-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9144010)
I don't think there's any way that Geno Smith is more of a project that....say...Cam Newton was. At least not as a passer. I think it could work, and work quickly with the right coaching staff and system in place.

Cam Newton couldn't hit the side of a barn with a shotgun from ten feet away.

What's this project bullshit with Smith?

He was a Parade All-American at the QB position in High School. He's a three year starter at the college level in two distinct systems that both featured pro sets. (Sophomore year was an under center specific system, and the Air Raid is a multiple receiver route system that is very similar to what most current pro teams run.) He's shown incredible accuracy to all points on the field to receivers in coverage. He's got a damn near perfect release. He's had a metric shit ton of reps passing the ball in a game situation, including behind a subpar offensive line this season. He's always been a pocket passer versus relying on his legs e.g. Griffin. (Who's already had concussion issues in his rookie season.) Geno has attended the high level QB camps during the off-seasons to further progress his game. The guy is a noted film room junkie as well.

If that's not as ready for the position at the next level than I don't know what is.

You couldn't ask for a guy to be more pro ready at the college level than what Geno Smith currently offers.

The risk with Geno is quite low in terms of the position IMO, and he's got an amazing ceiling for the next level due to his skill set. (I like him as a prospect better than Griffin last year, who was more of a one year wonder in a true spread system who relyed a lot on his legs versus working his receiving progressions - something Smith does quite well.)


That's the guy you take at the QB position. He's a damn near perfect prospect in terms of the position for a team like the Chiefs.

The Bad Guy 11-23-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9144030)
I heard another interesting negative about Geno this week. He won't throw the ball in tight windows. It's true and if you watch the tape you will see. He won't pull the trigger. This is a major concern with scouts because half the throws in the NFL are into tight windows.

You are right up out of your ****ing mind. He threw in tons of tight spots last weekend against Oklahoma.

You really are ****ing braindead.

"Hey guys, I heard a negative..."

Not like you could ever form your own opinion you sack of shit.

Saccopoo 11-23-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9144030)
I heard another interesting negative about Geno this week. He won't throw the ball in tight windows. It's true and if you watch the tape you will see. He won't pull the trigger. This is a major concern with scouts because half the throws in the NFL are into tight windows.

Are you on crack?

Have you watched just the three passes in the OP, let alone any of Geno's games from the past three years?

The guy threads the needle into coverage with the receiver in full stride all the freaking time.

Sorter 11-23-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9144045)
Great selective highlighting.

It's a gift, really. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...iw0zo1_500.gif

BossChief 11-23-2012 01:26 PM

If BlackBob were to get injured, I think we would all applaud.

Winston wouldn't, though.

chiefzilla1501 11-23-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9144060)

Ha. Well, my original point was, we can massage it all we want but most of his success has been in a very college oriented spread and we are overhyping success he had as a sophomore in a more nfl oriented offense. The adjustment to the nfl will be a much, much bigger one than tyler Wilson or sanchez or stafford. It will be the same as rgIII, but again, rgIII had his legs as a fallback.

Again. I believe he can make that big leap. But it is a bigger leap than most guys we talk about as a top pick.

RealSNR 11-23-2012 01:33 PM

"Watch the tape!"

That's my favorite BlackBobism. As if that's what we all haven't been doing every time Geno Smith is on national TV. He acts like none of us have watched Geno Smith play outside of one or two games maybe.

If that weren't embarrassing enough, if we actually did go to the tape to see if what BlackBob says is true, we would see that it's outright FALSE. It's like he's playing poker with us, but puts on a really, really terrible bluff face while he's holding his cards in such a way that everybody can see exactly what he has.

RealSNR 11-23-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9144087)
Ha. Well, my original point was, we can massage it all we want but most of his success has been in a very college oriented spread and we are overhyping success he had as a sophomore in a more nfl oriented offense. The adjustment to the nfl will be a much, much bigger one than tyler Wilson or sanchez or stafford. It will be the same as rgIII, but again, rgIII had his legs as a fallback.

Again. I believe he can make that big leap. But it is a bigger leap than most guys we talk about as a top pick.

Or Sam Bradford? He's not exactly Mr. Mobile

BossChief 11-23-2012 01:34 PM

BTW for those that dont already know, he plays against another decent defense in an hour.

Iowa States defense isnt shitty.

RealSNR 11-23-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9144025)
C'mon now. You'd be as patient as long as it takes?

That's bullshit.

I know you have the worlds biggest erection for this guy, but if he's not making big improvements and leading this team to wins by year 3 at the latest, you aren't giving him an endless rope. It doesn't take players that can play 3 years to impact the NFL anymore. If he's thrown into the fire immediately, he should be making strides long before year 3.

Year 1: Geno gets a pass, just like Luck is getting a pass from Colts fans. I don't think he'll need that much of a leash, because the guy is a ****ing playmaker. He'll flash just as much as he struggles.

Year 2: Geno gets a pass, but should start to look better. If he falls flat on his face and even regresses in Year 2, then it might be time to call him a flop

Year 3: Geno should be expected to start holding his own dick when he pees. Some expectations must be placed on him. However, if it's apparent that he has "it" after 3 years of being our QB but just needs some more time/help, then fans should continue to be patient with him until he proves to them that he can't cut it.

That's how much patience I'm willing to give him. It's what a #1 overall pick deserves, I think. But very likely it's not going to be what he gets.

What's so unbelievable about what I just said?

RealSNR 11-23-2012 01:43 PM

Oh, and I would grant that exact same patience to Tyler Wilson, too, if he was the QB we decided to draft

Pasta Little Brioni 11-23-2012 01:50 PM

Hooooray he's back :whackit:

Nightfyre 11-23-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9143503)
Barrett Jones is a stud.

All American Freshman and All Conference at Guard as a sophomore. Moves to Left Tackle and earns first team All-America spot and wins the Outland Trophy as a junior. (Outland Trophy is given to the best lineman, regardless of position.) Then he goes to the Center position this year (why, after winning the Outland at left tackle, but whatever) and is killing guys from the pivot.

Has a degree in accounting (graduated with a 4.0 gpa) and is now working on his masters in the same.

That is ultimate versatility and talent and intelligence.

However, Geno Smith is the ultimate goal.

If Barrett Jones dropped into the 20s, trading up to get him would be a no-brainer, imo.

the Talking Can 11-23-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9144030)
I heard another interesting negative about Geno this week. He won't throw the ball in tight windows. It's true and if you watch the tape you will see. He won't pull the trigger. This is a major concern with scouts because half the throws in the NFL are into tight windows.

who let this piece of shit reerun back on the board?

how about you actually watch Smith play before you open your reeruned mouth, you ****ing reerun loser...He's the best QB in college at throwing into tight spaces, and no one else is even close

now kill yourself, please...for the love of god and everyone that hates you (the population of Earth) kill yourself


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