IMO, as long as it's not the Chiefs 1st rounder, it won't be considered a reach.

nope 1st down so far

****ing refs. Down at the 4 inch line.

Illinois just scored, but still trail Michigan 14-10.

I thought they'd be much better this year.

you can call it now

why?

Now, it's 14-14.

6 possessions, 4 TD's.

KSU's offense has only run 13 plays.

Mainly because the Big 10/11/Whatever sucks.

He can throw a good ball, and has good measurables, but there is a lot I don't like about him. I don't like his decision making on a lot of throws. There are a lot of throws that he has NO touch on. It also scares me that year when Prince wouldn't let him into practice because he was too fat.

If we take him, I hope it is AFTER we get our franchise guy.

I think Mendenhal was a lot of that team.

yeah and they looked ok against MU, but back then i worried that MU's defensive backfield had problems. the general consensus was that it would work out, so i feel better about it. hoping i guess.

I agree with you, but he'll be a late 1st/early 2nd type guy, so my point was as long as Carl doesn't use his early 1st rounder on him, he won't be considered a reach. He'll be a servicable QB if he can keep developing as he has been the last 2 years and change.

Crabtree with a drop, heard footsteps.

KSU gets a stop. FG TTU

17-14 TTU.