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RippedmyFlesh 01-05-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5360565)
Except that Sanchez REGULARLY gets pressure, and his receivers are rarely THAT open.

He averages more NFL caliber throws per game than any of the three, IMO.

I agree his throws have big play written all over them.They don't wobble and have you hoping they get there when they have to.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-05-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5360553)
thing is, every time I see sanchez take pressure, he doesn't wilt like a hothouse orchid. every time I've seen bradford take pressure he just falls apart (four a series or two against mizzou, texas, etc.)

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361448)
I agree his throws have big play written all over them.They don't wobble and have you hoping they get there when they have to.

I wish I had a copy of that game, it's a clinic on doing it right. Watching him thread a pass in to insane coverage is just art.
There's so much potential in that guy it's just scary.

RippedmyFlesh 01-06-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5361470)
I wish I had a copy of that game, it's a clinic on doing it right. Watching him thread a pass in to insane coverage is just art.
There's so much potential in that guy it's just scary.

Any team that gets sanchez needs a dejean jackson stretch the field type of burner to take advantage of his good deep ball. I like Bowe but if the chiefs get sanchez they need to get a burner to stretch the field.Maybe frankln can be that guy.It almost seems like franklin could outrun thiggys arm he seemed to have to stop to make plays on long passes. With sanchez throwing those bombs frankilin will have to keep running to catch up to them instead of stopping and waiting.

beach tribe 01-06-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361892)
Any team that gets sanchez needs a dejean jackson stretch the field type of burner to take advantage of his good deep ball. I like Bowe but if the chiefs get sanchez they need to get a burner to stretch the field.Maybe frankln can be that guy.It almost seems like franklin could outrun thiggys arm he seemed to have to stop to make plays on long passes. With sanchez throwing those bombs frankilin will have to keep running to catch up to them instead of stopping and waiting.

A few players have had to stop for Thigpen's deep balls this year. He doesn't throw deep well at all.

DaKCMan AP 01-06-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361892)
Any team that gets sanchez needs a dejean jackson stretch the field type of burner to take advantage of his good deep ball. I like Bowe but if the chiefs get sanchez they need to get a burner to stretch the field.Maybe frankln can be that guy.It almost seems like franklin could outrun thiggys arm he seemed to have to stop to make plays on long passes. With sanchez throwing those bombs frankilin will have to keep running to catch up to them instead of stopping and waiting.

Louis Murphy. 6-3, 205lbs, runs a 4.3 40 and averages 17yds per reception this season.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-06-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361892)
Any team that gets sanchez needs a dejean jackson stretch the field type of burner to take advantage of his good deep ball. I like Bowe but if the chiefs get sanchez they need to get a burner to stretch the field.Maybe frankln can be that guy.It almost seems like franklin could outrun thiggys arm he seemed to have to stop to make plays on long passes. With sanchez throwing those bombs frankilin will have to keep running to catch up to them instead of stopping and waiting.

I'm not exactly sure what Bowe's "specialty" is supposed be, but I'm going to assume 5 to 30 yard catches. Is he a deep guy? Wouldn't know; Chiefs don't do that.

Darling is supposed to be our "speed guy"ROFL, and Franklin's been kind of pushed to the side. Maybe having a QB like Sanchez is just what Will needs.

But here's the other thing; Bowe, more often than not, catches like shit on plain jane short routes, and I'm wondering if he wouldn't do better catching passes from a QB with serious velocity on those short routes.(?)

We'll hopefully find out.

RippedmyFlesh 01-06-2009 10:28 AM

Could Thigpen play a Garcia part well?
Garcia has a huge body of work. If you hand picked the most effective plays of his time with SF , his run with the eagles and even some moments in tampa bay it seems to me there would at least be enough to start creating a more nfl type offense than what thiggy runs. I don't remember any of those teams doing anything radically different because garcia was their qb.Garcia makes his own throwing lanes with his legs I could see thiggy doing that.

Mr. Laz 01-06-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5361935)
A few players have had to stop for Thigpen's deep balls this year. He doesn't throw deep well at all.

he doesn't .... but it's not because he doesn't have the arm strength.

Thigpen can chuck the ball deep ..... he lacks touch.

can he develop that touch? dunno

He didn't play in an offense in college that threw the ball deep that much i don't think.

practice?

RippedmyFlesh 01-06-2009 10:36 AM

To me if a team had garcia as a backup they were super bowl ready from a qb standpoint.Thiggy will never have a great long ball but neither does garcia and in a pinch a good team can keep winning if he has to step in.Thats the role I would like to see for thiggy. The best backup qb in the league.

RippedmyFlesh 01-06-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5361972)
he doesn't .... but it's not because he doesn't have the arm strength.

Thigpen can chuck the ball deep ..... he lacks touch.

can he develop that touch? dunno

He didn't play in an offense in college that threw the ball deep that much i don't think.

practice?

Thats the thing there are lineman who can throw the ball 50-60 yards.
Some guys just throw that for lack of a better term "catchable" long ball.
It seems that usually you see that ability in a guy in college.Thats what I see of sanchez or stafford that I don't see with thiggy.

Mr. Laz 01-06-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361993)
Thats the thing there are lineman who can throw the ball 50-60 yards.
Some guys just throw that for lack of a better term "catchable" long ball.
It seems that usually you see that ability in a guy in college.Thats what I see of sanchez or stafford that I don't see with thiggy.

i know .... but Thiggy seems to have plenty of arm strength. He seems to be able to just flick the ball deep pretty easy. I worry when a QB has to use his whole body to "wind up" and throw it .... those guys are gonna struggle more often than not.

with Thigpen it's all about control


he's so inexperienced that it's hard to tell whether he has the potential or not at this point.

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5361972)
he doesn't .... but it's not because he doesn't have the arm strength.

Thigpen can chuck the ball deep ..... he lacks touch.

can he develop that touch? dunno

He didn't play in an offense in college that threw the ball deep that much i don't think.

practice?

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5361993)
Thats the thing there are lineman who can throw the ball 50-60 yards.
Some guys just throw that for lack of a better term "catchable" long ball.
It seems that usually you see that ability in a guy in college.Thats what I see of sanchez or stafford that I don't see with thiggy.

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5362012)
i know .... but Thiggy seems to have plenty of arm strength. He seems to be able to just flick the ball deep pretty easy. I worry when a QB has to use his whole body to "wind up" and throw it .... those guys are gonna struggle more often than not.

with Thigpen it's all about control


he's so inexperienced that it's hard to tell whether he has the potential or not at this point.

I pointed this out in another thread a few days back, but I think Thigpen's deep ball troubles are easily correctable.

All he needs to do is step into the throw.

Watch his deep throws - he seems to just flick it off his back foot.

There's no reason a guy with that strong an arm can't throw farther than 30 yards.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-06-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5362021)
I pointed this out in another thread a few days back, but I think Thigpen's deep ball troubles are easily correctable.

All he needs to do is step into the throw.

Watch his deep throws - he seems to just flick it off his back foot.

There's no reason a guy with that strong an arm can't throw farther than 30 yards.

Mark does that thing on long passes that I've seen the best Pro's do :

He sights, rotates his upper body and keeps his neck/eyes parallel with his torso, and let's it fly like casting a line. And as the ball is leaving his hands, he's initially looking down and not trying to re sight or follow the pass.
It's somewhat akin to delivering a fast ball, but not really.

WilliamTheIrish 01-06-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5359913)
Seriously?!
McNabb was not surrounded with talent like Sanchez and Leinart had at USC. Same with Big Ben and Cutler.

Not true.

There were 8 first or second round draft choices that came from Syracuse/ McNabb's 1997 Fiesta Bowl squad. That team was loaded with prospects.

Pablo 01-06-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5361958)
I'm not exactly sure what Bowe's "specialty" is supposed be, but I'm going to assume 5 to 30 yard catches. Is he a deep guy? Wouldn't know; Chiefs don't do that.

Darling is supposed to be our "speed guy"ROFL, and Franklin's been kind of pushed to the side. Maybe having a QB like Sanchez is just what Will needs.

But here's the other thing; Bowe, more often than not, catches like shit on plain jane short routes, and I'm wondering if he wouldn't do better catching passes from a QB with serious velocity on those short routes.(?)

We'll hopefully find out.

Thigpen has plenty of velocity on his short throws..it's just that he typically throws at the top of their heads instead of their chests.

And Franklin is plenty fast, saw the guy up close at an OTA and I was impressed with his speed.


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