What does she expect from you has she mentioned anything? Does she act like all up in your face about the hard to talk about or see kind of stuff? I mean does she show any compasion towards you at all? As for the kid your right truely kids are kids they need a family and if you are big enough to accept my hat is off to you. You seem like you could go either way kind of like a battle inside? The timing is the cog in this wheel. I really hope you find someone to talk to and help you through this time. Just don't lose site of your feeling while trying to swim through everyone elses. For your family I wish she could have been stronger if not for you or her atleast your kids. I would try to stay away from drinking If you do and just take the time to figure out everything for yourself.

Yeah thats why its so hard for me to let go...she tells me she loves me, she kisses me passionately like she used to, she tells me she knows she will never be able to love her new guy and is only with him because of the baby and because she thinks her parents will be pissed that she put everyone through all this for nothing. She doesnt want to divorce me, she says the only way we'll ever divorce is if I go do it...but even after all that she still says she does want to be with me again someday but "cant make any promises"...

She's playing with your emotions so that you'll stick around. She has both of you wrapped around her finger. I guarantee you that she's feeding the same line of bullshit to the other guy.

Drop her dumbass immediately.

Listen to yourself man; do you hear what you are saying? Yuu are wounded and vulnerable right now but you are going to hate yourself one day for having anything to do with this woman after what she has done. You don't love her; you just want the hurt to go away. Step back.

oh my God. I can be one of the most conniving manipulative women I have ever met and this bitch takes the cake.

I promise you. This is NOT her showing compassion. This is her saying whatever it is she has to say to keep all her balls in the air. This is self preservation at it's finest.

Holy **** this makes me want to drink heavily.

I'm sorry that you're in love with such a terrible terrible person.

Ms. Katipan. Say it isn't so ...

FAX

Man you just need to bite the bullet and stop letting this woman play mind games with you. You need to file for divorce. Let her know that you're serious (you got kids of your own involved). She's the one that's ****ed up. If she's telling you that she's only with this guy because of the baby and won't ever love him as much as you, then let her live with that for the rest of her life. Find someone else that will treat you better and move on.

This.

Former life.
Self preservation. :(

I hit the road. I'm a good girl now, but I can't very well deny what I know I'm capable of. If anything, it makes me all the more satisfied with what I became.

Good lord you're beyond help.

Sorry to hear that.

Funny, that's the advice given a ****ing year ago and yet the tard is still tarding it up.

I thought for sure this story was about this love triangle wen I read it a few minutes ago.

The more things change.