Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7182880)

There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7181479)

Nice comeback, dumbass:thumb:

I have been on the "wait and see" bandwagon for quite awhile but have recently jumped off when Castle could barely muster 13pts to defeat Buffalo in OT in our own house.

Truth hurts but this is how Pioli/Haley see Castle in many respects, "A rookie" who has shown big potential when the talent is around him. However, I believe now this 2nd half of the season will be the telltale if Cassel will be the future IMO.

And the bigger question will be if Cassel has a true melt down the rest of this season will Pioli be a big enough man to replace him, or will Pioli's ego try to force a square peg in a round hole?

Quite frankly I feel that Cassel got psychologically f'd last yr and is really struggling to trust what is around him and has developed happy feet and a happy arm. Can he recover this 2nd half of the season to show he is the future of the Chiefs? Time will tell but I say probably not.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7182885)

I thought everywhere you went was uphill?

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7182475)

Look at it like this, it's the middle of winter and you have one pair of shoes that looks like shit and you want new ones but you can't get any until the middle of January. You going to throw them away, even though they are functional? At this point in time regardless of how you feel about the QB, he is what we have and there isn't anyone out there to put in the game.

He is playing well enough so that the team is most likely going to finish 8-8 or better. Far better than we did last year, the year before and the year before that.

He may not get to a point that I think he can get to as a professional, but I also know he is miles better than you give him credit for.

Kick off those shoes and traipse around until January 15th and get back to me regarding how it worked out for you.

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7182955)

You're literally reeruned. Forrest Gump would point at you and laugh.

People here may be tired of Cassel, but nobody here thinks we have a better option this year. This is why we speak of drafting a QB to replace him. Not having another option this year does not make a franchise QB. As we've all learned, a $60,000,000 contract does not a franchise QB make.

Naming someone you'd rather have is more like debating authors. Some folks like old school Clancy, others prefer that vampire shit girls are reading today. If you asked someone who was a better writer they wouldn't say, "well, in my lap I have The Berenstein Bears and I'm too lazy to worry about what else is on the bookshelves. So I'll say this picture book is the best."

Idiot.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7183224)

My original opinion of you was that you were a total ass. Looks like I was right.

Keep fantasizing about another QB in KC and then watch the rest of the games. What you will see is Cassel the rest of this year, dump him for Croyle and he will be back in a week. Bring in someone off the street and he will be back in a week. The only way Cassel is not the Chiefs QB the rest of this year will be due to injury.

You dipshits just don't understand that what you have is what you have. All the wishing in the world isn't going to change that. If you believe all of the bitching about Cassel is going to help the situation you are ****ed up.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7182880)

There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183231)

If you get there, you're right, your car is good enough to get you there. "Well enough to win" and "super fantastic" aren't synonymous. You seem to be equating the two. The defense has played well enough to be 7-2, but that doesn't mean they've been the '85 Bears for 7 games this year.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7183245)

No, I'm not equating the two.


The car didn't get me there.
Gravity did.

The tires didn't blow out, so that part of the car did it's job, but the engine didn't, and now when I want to get back up the hill, my car won't get me home.

Cassel didn't get us to 5 wins, the team did, in spite of the fact Cassel doesn't work.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183259)

Sorry milkman, your definition of "good enough" is bankrupt, IMO. Being good enough to get to the convenience store and being good enough to get back home are two different things.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7183267)

Fail.

The car didn't do it's job getting me to the 7-11.
If the car did it's job, the engine would have started.

The car is not designed simply to roll downhill.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7182475)

Look at it like this, it's the middle of winter and you have one pair of shoes that looks like shit and you want new ones but you can't get any until the middle of January. You going to throw them away, even though they are functional? At this point in time regardless of how you feel about the QB, he is what we have and there isn't anyone out there to put in the game.

He is playing well enough so that the team is most likely going to finish 8-8 or better. Far better than we did last year, the year before and the year before that.

He may not get to a point that I think he can get to as a professional, but I also know he is miles better than you give him credit for.

Kick off those shoes and traipse around until January 15th and get back to me regarding how it worked out for you.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183270)

Still not understanding the concept of "good enough" as contrasted with "flawless" or "great" or "firing on all cylinders", huh? Keep ruminating.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181006)

You don't know shit. Herman was a piece of shit from day one. CP had his time but outlived his usefulness.

You can carry this argument on by yourself, I'm not wasting my time.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7183224)

My original opinion of you was that you were a total ass. Looks like I was right.

Keep fantasizing about another QB in KC and then watch the rest of the games. What you will see is Cassel the rest of this year, dump him for Croyle and he will be back in a week. Bring in someone off the street and he will be back in a week. The only way Cassel is not the Chiefs QB the rest of this year will be due to injury.

You dipshits just don't understand that what you have is what you have. All the wishing in the world isn't going to change that. If you believe all of the bitching about Cassel is going to help the situation you are ****ed up.