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DeezNutz 01-29-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7391103)
Basically get the walks up to what they were at AA and his season goes from really good to insane.

You make some really good points, but this is the area of his game that will always be marginal, IMO. Even in Northwest Arkansas, his SO:BB rate was roughly 2:1. When he moves up to more refined (not necessarily better) pitching, it's roughly 3:1. And these numbers have been consistent throughout his minor league career.

I don't think players learn to walk.

DeezNutz 01-29-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 7390995)
Moose is going to be a stud. Maybe not a great OBP, but the power and leadership will help anchor the team IMO.

I think he can be a really good player, no question, and his strengths have the potential to compensate well for the holes in his game.

My biggest point is that this is the big-name prospect with some of the most red flags, IMO. The other would be Montgomery because of the injuries.

Deberg_1990 01-29-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 7390830)
40+ HR potential w/ Moustakas? Can't wait till the Royals get one of those lol

It would be nice......because, we have never had one of those.

CaliforniaChief 01-29-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7391387)
It would be nice......because, we have never had one of those.

Ah, these are good days of prospecting. Remember when this guy was our top prospect?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLp...icture%2B7.png

Priest31kc 01-29-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7391387)
It would be nice......because, we have never had one of those.

I know....sad. Cant wait till someone breaks the 36 HR team record!

Sure-Oz 01-29-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 7391392)
Ah, these are good days of prospecting. Remember when this guy was our top prospect?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLp...icture%2B7.png

The man with the golden voice?

Deberg_1990 01-29-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 7391393)
I know....sad. Cant wait till someone breaks the 36 HR team record!

heh, i think Gaetti and Dean Palmer made a run at breaking it in the mid 90's? If i remember right?

Bowser 01-29-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7391411)
heh, i think Gaetti and Dean Palmer made a run at breaking it in the mid 90's? If i remember right?

:facepalm:

My kingdom for a player with 40 hr power!

KChiefs1 01-29-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 7391392)
Ah, these are good days of prospecting. Remember when this guy was our top prospect?

or this guy?

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/813...53DD3C01F45EDA

KChiefs1 01-30-2011 01:44 PM

Got my copy of the Baseball America Prospect Handbook yesterday....

The Kansas City Royals Top 31:

1. Eric Hosmer
2. Wil Myers
3. Mike Moustakas
4. John Lamb
5. Mike Montgomery
6. Christian Colon
7. Danny Duffy
8. Chris Dwyer
9. Aaron Crow
10. Brett Eibner
11. Jason Adam
12. Yordano Ventura
13. Tim Collins
14. Tim Melville
15. Chelsor Cuthbert
16. Robinson Yambati
17. Salvador Perez
18. Johnny Giavotella
19. Louis Coleman
20. Jarrod Dyson
21. Jeff Bianchi
22. Patrick Keating
23. Huberto Arteaga
24. Orlando Calixte
25. David Lough
26. Derrick Robinson
27. Henry Barrera
28. Clint Robinson
29. Elisaul Pimentel
30. Kelvin Herrera
31. Everett Teaford


Interesting sidenote:
Milwaukee's projected 2014 starting lineup before the trade had Alcides Escobar SS, Lorenzo Cain CF, Jeremy Jeffress as closer & Jake Odorizzi as the #2 starter.

KChiefs1 01-30-2011 11:57 PM

http://www.i70baseball.com/?p=7141

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This Is A Bad Idea

Posted on January 30, 2011 by Matt Kelsey.


The Royals have made all the right moves with their farm system, and according to Baseball America, the team now has the No. 1 farm system in all of baseball.

The team has developed a whole slew of offensive, defensive and pitching threats, and with any luck, a few years down the road that stockpile will result in big-league success.

But this week, they made a move that I believe seriously hurts their long-term success.

The Royals have moved Wil Myers from catcher to outfield.

Wil Myers will be a fine outfielder, I’m sure. My disagreement is that he could have been an outstanding catcher, the kind of catcher the Royals have never had - a great young catcher they could build a franchise around.

The kind like they have on that team across the state.


Yadier Molina-type catchers don’t come along very often. And the Royals had one.

No, scratch that – they had one who had the potential to be much better, at least offensively, than Molina.

Now, though, instead of a great catching prospect, Wil Myers is just a good outfield prospect.

According to the above-linked article from the Kansas City Star, the Royals made the move in order to expedite Myers’ climb through the farm system to the majors. They say his bat is nearly major league ready, but his catching skills are not where they should be.

That’s all fine and good, but my question is: What’s the hurry?

The Royals will probably not be ready to compete until 2012 at the very earliest, but probably 2013 or ’14 is more likely. So why the big rush to get Wil Myers in Kansas City?

In terms of baseball economics, outfield prospects are a dime a dozen. True, the Royals don’t have any great outfield prospects right now, but besides Myers, they don’t have any great catching prospects either (albeit a couple good ones). When the team is ready, the Royals can obtain power-hitting outfielders on the free agent market. They’re available every offseason, and the organization is stockpiling money for the purpose of supplementing the roster in the future.

Great free agent catchers are almost non-existent.

Besides, the Royals’ homegrown power is gonna come from the corners of the infield, through No. 1 ranked first base prospect Eric Hosmer and No. 1 ranked third base prospect Mike Moustakas.

Wil Myers has a chance to be great at any position he plays. But I think the Royals have squandered an amazing opportunity by turning him into just another outfielder.

Matt Kelsey is a Royals writer and an associate editor for I-70 Baseball. He can be reached at mattkelsey14@yahoo.com.

Three7s 01-31-2011 12:06 AM

Yeah, and the fact that Myers in the OF now means that he'll play A LOT more than he would as a catcher. All of that wear and tear that catchers go through won't hurt as much either. Catcher is the one position that I can live without an offensive powerhouse, as long as he's good at managing the pitchers and has good defensive abilities.

alnorth 01-31-2011 12:11 AM

Matt Kelsey is a moron.

Wil Myers has the potential to be not just some good hitter, but a freaking amazing hitter. Given that, and given the fact that he wont ever have a plus glove at catcher, and especially given the fact that he'd miss 25-30 more games as a catcher, its a no-brainer.

If we had an excess of hitters and we had one to spare at catcher, fine. Someone with Wil's talent should be in the lineup every day.

jbwm89 01-31-2011 12:38 AM

He is being moved to facilitate his arrival in 12 or 13. If you keep him at catcher its going to take a lot longer. Talk about writing an entire story on a false premise, what an idiot.

KCUnited 01-31-2011 07:24 AM

Wow.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/30...advisory.html#

Frank White resigns front-office role with Royals
By TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star
Royals legend Frank White — who has served as a senior adviser with the club since 2007 — resigned last week as a full-time employee of the team. He is pictured here in at spring training in 2005, when he managed the Royals' AA affiliate in Wichita.
File photo by JOHN SLEEZER

Frank White has been a mainstay in the Royals’ organization for the better part of 40 years. However, his run with the team has come to an end.

When reached Sunday, White — who has served as a senior advisor with the club since 2007 — said he resigned last week as a full-time employee of the club. White, 60, was given a chance to remain with the Royals. However, he was told he would have to take a pay cut because his job with Fox Sports Kansas City limited the number of community appearances he made during the season, a requirement of his full-time position with the club.

“They felt like because I increased the number of games I did with Fox, I wasn’t able to be used as much they wanted to use me, so therefore, it required reduction in salary,” said White, who was upbeat and optimistic about his future on Sunday. “We just couldn’t come to an agreement on that.”

This will mark the first season since 1996 that White, a five-time all-star who won eight Gold Glove awards with the Royals, will not be a full-time employee for the club. He will, however, be back for his fourth season in the booth, and indicated has no hard feelings.

“I enjoyed the time I spent coaching, managing and going out in the community,” said White.

White, who was inducted into the Royals’ Hall of Fame in 1995, has been busy the past few years. In 2008, his first as a broadcaster, he estimates he called 24 games but saw his workload increase to around 135 games in 2009 and 120 games in 2010.

When asked, White said the Royals last season sent him on roughly 27 public relations appearances — which ranged from charity work to meetings with sponsors. The team said that number was fewer than in years past.

“When you’re doing north of 110 games a year, you’re out of town a lot,” said Toby Cook, the Royals’ vice president of community affairs and publicity. “And when you’re in town, you’re at the park in the early to mid-afternoon, so that really limits your availability.”

However, White will now get a chance to focus on his broadcast career.

“I think I was a little better last year than I was the year before,” White said of his broadcast experience. “It was something I enjoyed doing.

“But I’m a versatile guy, and there’s other things I could do and do very well,” he added.

One of those things, it would appear, is managing. In addition to managing the Wichita Wranglers from 2004 to 2006 (the Royals’ Class AA affiliate at the time), he also managed the Royals’ Arizona Fall League team in 2003, the Red Sox Gulf Coast Rookie League team in 1992 and the Red Sox Arizona Fall League team in 1995.

“I put in the work and put myself in a position to be a (big league) manager,” White said. “But probably, that time has passed.”

After his marvelous 18-year big-league career ended in 1990 — his No. 20 eventually was retired — White took one year off before joining the Boston Red Sox organization. He spent 1994 through 1996 as the Red Sox first base coach, before he rejoined the Royals at the end of the year.

Since then, the Kansas City native has held myriad positions with his hometown team, including stints as the Royals’ first base coach and special assistant to the general manager, before settling into his most recent position.

The Royals hope he will remain an active participant in their community events.

“My belief, and certainly my hope, is that he’s going to continue to make appearances for us,” Cook said. White, who said he will still support the Royals, won’t rule it out. He even offered his recent participation in FanFest and the team’s annual caravan as proof, though he wasn’t sure what other events he would take part in going forward.

“It’s one of those things where I have to wait and see what they want me to do and just go from there,” White said.


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