I don't need a link. Think it's pretty damn obvious that Haley always wanted to call his own plays.

Gailey felt like a Hunt hire. Weis felt like a Pioli hire. And we're hearing that Pioli micro-managed the shit out of Haley after the playoffs, so it seems very likely that Pioli demanded that Haley not call his own plays.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Haley's playcalling. But if he wanted to call his own plays, his GM should let him do it instead of forcing a dinosaur on him.

To a point yes. Was he not the QB of this team the year prior? Did they not play so poorly under his leadership that they ended up with pick #5? The really good QBs never seem to have their team picking in the top 5.

I thought it was because haley was a genious?
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Again haley wasn't forced to do anything. He could have walked, and if what people are saying is true his career probably would have been better for it.
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Could it? Maybe.

Could it also be possible that Cassel's success, like Daunte Culpepper, was in throwing average passes to an outrageously good receiver in Randy Moss?

Sorry, on this one, you'll be really hard-pressed to find anyone (even among Haley haters) who think Haley failed the Cassel as you will those who believe Cassel failed Haley.

When did I say Haley was a genius? I'm saying he's not nearly as bad as people want to make him to be. His fault was that he didn't make a ton of a team who didn't have a bunch of talent.

Culpepper also blew his knee out right after moss left...
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What about the other 5 blowouts in 2009 and 2010? That's 2.5 blowouts a year. Prior to Haley we were getting blown out .39 times a year for 46 years. Yeah, that's like once every 3 years. Haley was on pace for 3 a year. You can do the math but that's ****ing insane when you compare the 46 years prior to him.

So you fire a coach when your team is getting waxed almost one out of every 5 games. You fire a coach when you consistently see the plays not getting in until there are 7 or 8 secs left on the clock. You fire a coach when you are getting ass blasted and you refuse to put a different QB in for experience if anything. Then after all that said coach gets an unsportsman like penalty? Nevermind he chased off the 2 prior OC's, one 2 weeks before the season. He put his money on ****ing Tyler Palko for not 1 but 2 seasons and refused to yank him even after he say how much fail the guy threw. Along with the constant childish cursing and yelling on the sidelines.

Yeah, you fire that coach in a ****ing heartbeat. And I didn't even mention our pathetic training camp fiasco.

It sounds more and more like the Chiefs were forcing Haley out the door even before this season started, and that haley had considered resigning a very long time ago. You can't blame a guy like Haley for not wanting to leave his job. How many head coaches quit their job?

But he took a bunch of fifth graders to
7-7 after he cost them the first two games.

Hell he was so great he won two out of three with no talent and sitting on his couch.
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This is true but I will give Cassel a partial pass on that season. 1 it was his first time starting. 2 his OC was fired 2 weeks before the season started. 3 it was a new head coach. Not a total excuse but enough I won't lay it all on him.

Why did Pioli allow Haley to start Palko for 4 games
Other GMs have overridden their HCs under these circumstances
Unless Stanzi was injured there's two to blame

What the **** does that have to do with anything? Who the **** cares?

Culpepper wasn't a good QB. He was a QB that knew how to get the ball within a mile of Randy Moss and Moss was a freakish talent that he could get anything.

There were a million scouting reports after Culpepper left Minnesota that he was a one-read QB. He had zero clue how to read a defense.

Only time we have heard about him contemplating quitting was the week prior to being fired.

If he was that hamstrung he could have been committing career suicide by staying and playing palko
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FTR Haley did not take us 7-7 after the first two losses. He took us 5-6 after the first two losses getting fired with a stellar 5-8 record.

Crennel took us 2-1 to finish off a 7-9 season.