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listopencil 09-24-2013 08:32 PM

Oh, and I very rarely eat beef anymore. Chicken, fish, pork.

stanleychief 09-24-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10014720)
You should absolutely sear both sides, but "keeps the juices inside" is total bullshit. You do it because it creates flavors (Google Maillard reaction if you're unfamiliar) that you wouldn't get otherwise. It's been shown time after time that searing actually creates MORE moisture loss than not searing.

No doubt about the Maillard reaction, but this guy seems to disagree about the moisture loss:http://goo.gl/FgXkfX in fact went so far as to write a four page rant on it. He seems to think that a lot of the tests that were performed were flawed since they neglected to take fat loss into account. Which is right? I have no idea, but searing is definitely a good thing no matter what.

I use the same basic process you do but add a rest in between the sear and the cook. It's based on the T-Rex method which can be found here. Basically it's sear, rest, cook, rest then EAT. I've tried it without the rest period after the sear and it's just not quite as juicy. I'm one of those 'sinners' who likes to eat their steaks medium to medium-well. It's quite possible that if you weren't cooking the steaks as long that it wouldn't make as much of a difference.

I use a Kamado for grilling at home, but I've successfully done the same thing using a hot skillet and a gas grill. The process takes a little longer but it is well worth it. I use only oil (or clarified butter if I want to kill time), kosher salt, fresh black pepper and minced garlic as a treatment on the steak.

BWillie 09-24-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefButthurt (Post 10014963)
This thread will stay on the main page for weeks....steak is like cars and pussy. Everybody likes theirs different.

Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

Baby Lee 09-24-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10017278)
Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

I take my raw steaks on a platter out the back door and point back and forth between them and the grill menacingly.

vailpass 09-24-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10017278)
Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

Well done steak? No thank you.

vailpass 09-24-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10017285)
I take my raw steaks on a platter out the back door and point back and forth between them and the grill menacingly.

:D

listopencil 09-24-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10017278)
Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

No way:

http://www.steaknight.com/assets/ima...ess_chart2.jpg

vailpass 09-24-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10017329)

Medium rare..mmmmmm.

Baby Lee 09-25-2013 12:03 AM

Rare if a thin cut, up to borderline medium rare for a really good thick cut. 50% red is a MINIMUM. 60% is optimal, but I've had a couple of 75% reds that were thick enough that it included a 40% raw cross section. Just a little too much.

vailpass 09-25-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10017348)
Rare if a thin cut, up to borderline medium rare for a really good thick cut. 50% red is a MINIMUM. 60% is optimal.

Yeah. If I wanted to eat leather I'd chew on my car seat.

|Zach| 09-25-2013 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10017278)
Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

You eat a well done Steak? What?

Are you 12?

Titty Meat 09-25-2013 06:18 AM

Zach c'mon you play soccer

Tytanium 09-25-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleychief (Post 10017209)
No doubt about the Maillard reaction, but this guy seems to disagree about the moisture loss:http://goo.gl/FgXkfX in fact went so far as to write a four page rant on it. He seems to think that a lot of the tests that were performed were flawed since they neglected to take fat loss into account. Which is right? I have no idea, but searing is definitely a good thing no matter what.

I use the same basic process you do but add a rest in between the sear and the cook. It's based on the T-Rex method which can be found here. Basically it's sear, rest, cook, rest then EAT. I've tried it without the rest period after the sear and it's just not quite as juicy. I'm one of those 'sinners' who likes to eat their steaks medium to medium-well. It's quite possible that if you weren't cooking the steaks as long that it wouldn't make as much of a difference.

I use a Kamado for grilling at home, but I've successfully done the same thing using a hot skillet and a gas grill. The process takes a little longer but it is well worth it. I use only oil (or clarified butter if I want to kill time), kosher salt, fresh black pepper and minced garlic as a treatment on the steak.

Medium is the upper limit on how far a steak should be cooked. The rarer the better.

More done steak is much tougher and chewier than a rare steak. At least, if you're not using shitty cuts of meat with a lot of connective tissue.

Consistent1 09-25-2013 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10017278)
Unless you eat your steak well done or medium well....then you are just a god damned grade a sally

WTF? Seriously the people that tear up good meat like that are the sallies. Not sure if you are even being serious.

vailpass 09-25-2013 09:00 AM

Thick ass t-bones in the fridge awaiting salting, sitting, searing, sitting tonight.


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