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Amnorix 11-04-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10159903)
What if Richie said this to Martin in response to something Martin said previously? Would that change things? What if Richie and Martin said this type of stuff back and forth to each other, and Martin ended up getting his feelings hurt? I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.


It's SPECTACULARLY clear that that isn't what happened.

-King- 11-04-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10159950)
I'm not making it about the victim. What Incognito did us inexcusable and I hope he never plays again. I was just a little shocked at Martin's reaction based on my limited experience with black people being called the n-word. Martina's reaction is his and I'm not saying it's wrong and I'm not calling him a pussy. I just expected something different when I read the transcript of the voice mails.

Eh. Some people just don't like fighting. Some people just like to be the quiet guy that comes to work and does their job. Can't fault a guy for that.

LoneWolf 11-04-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10160017)
Eh. Some people just don't like fighting. Some people just like to be the quiet guy that comes to work and does their job. Can't fault a guy for that.

I agree. It just seems that particular word coming from a white guy elicits a particular Pavlovian response in a majority of black people.

wazu 11-04-2013 04:42 PM

Seems like Incognito is taking 100% of the fall for this. Didn't the triggering incident involve multiple people acting like assholes? Incognito may be their king, but I haven't even heard any other names.

swayy07 11-04-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 10160037)
Seems like Incognito is taking 100% of the fall for this. Didn't the triggering incident involve multiple people acting like assholes? Incognito may be their king, but I haven't even heard any other names.

idk about the other players but he is the one with the longest rap sheet so it makes sense it would get pinned on him.

Rain Man 11-04-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10159872)
I didn't realize until just a few minutes ago that Incognito was kicked off Nebraska's football team, then Oregon's team before he even played a snap.

What an epic asshole this guy must be.


Wow. I didn't know about the Oregon thing.

Rain Man 11-04-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 10160037)
Seems like Incognito is taking 100% of the fall for this. Didn't the triggering incident involve multiple people acting like assholes? Incognito may be their king, but I haven't even heard any other names.

Good question.

I think oftentimes a toxic employee will build a gang around them because everyone is afraid of them. It could be the case here where a bunch of followers joined the pack because otherwise they'd be targeted.

The fact that Pouncey is there makes me wonder, though. It's interesting that Incognito's dad went after Pouncey in his BB post, because I would have assumed that Pouncey would be one of the gang given his relationship with Aaron Hernandez. It's hard to imagine that he's not an active part of the problem, too. Maybe Tannehill intervened and said, "Hey, I've lost my right tackle and my right guard. Can we overlook the center before I end up being gelatinized?"

chiefzilla1501 11-04-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 10160037)
Seems like Incognito is taking 100% of the fall for this. Didn't the triggering incident involve multiple people acting like assholes? Incognito may be their king, but I haven't even heard any other names.

I thought I heard Pouncey's name in there too

ReynardMuldrake 11-04-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10159766)
One NFL personnel man told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that Richie Incognito's career is likely over.

Incognito bullied Dolphins OT Jonathan Martin to the point that he essentially had a mental meltdown and left the team. "Lol," the personnel man replied when asked by Pelissero whether Incognito will be claimed off waivers. "I think he can file his retirement papers." Incognito graded out as a top-13 guard in Pro Football Focus' ratings, so his loss is a concern on the field.

I don't get it. Did the source laugh or did he actually say "L-O-L"?

|Zach| 11-04-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 10160055)
I don't get it. Did the source laugh or did he actually say "L-O-L"?

Probably asked and answered via text.

-King- 11-04-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10160048)
Good question.

I think oftentimes a toxic employee will build a gang around them because everyone is afraid of them. It could be the case here where a bunch of followers joined the pack because otherwise they'd be targeted.

The fact that Pouncey is there makes me wonder, though. It's interesting that Incognito's dad went after Pouncey in his BB post, because I would have assumed that Pouncey would be one of the gang given his relationship with Aaron Hernandez. It's hard to imagine that he's not an active part of the problem, too. Maybe Tannehill intervened and said, "Hey, I've lost my right tackle and my right guard. Can we overlook the center before I end up being gelatinized?"

Pouncey is also biracial. The Incognitos don't seem to be very fond of that.

ThaVirus 11-04-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10159927)
They do. Did you not see the tribal tattoo along with the dumb **** look on his face? The signs are everywhere. You just have to look with a keener eye.

Your sarcasm meter. Check it.

Rain Man 11-04-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10160088)
Pouncey is also biracial. The Incognitos don't seem to be very fond of that.

Oh, good point. I bet Incognito stopped bullying him, though, after he shot a couple of Incognito's friends in the face.

Dayze 11-04-2013 05:03 PM

gonna be interesting to hear the details as this soap opera plays out

wazu 11-04-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10160048)
Good question.

I think oftentimes a toxic employee will build a gang around them because everyone is afraid of them. It could be the case here where a bunch of followers joined the pack because otherwise they'd be targeted.

This is definitely true, and almost certainly the case. But that doesn't get them off the hook. Somebody should have been the whistle blower on this garbage.

What a mess this is. I feel kind of bad for the coaches who have egg on their face. Yeah, they are responsible for not being connected to what's going on, but on the other hand they are pulling their hair out trying to build game plans and get the team ready to play each week. Sure, some hazing going on and they knew it, I'm sure. But who even thinks to wonder if it's gotten to this level? I'm sure coaches for other teams will have it more top of mind now.


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