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OldSchool 03-10-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478050)
Stupid comment and completely untrue.

In 2012 Justin Blackmon and Trent Richardson were top 5 draft picks. Both teams had $3it o lines.

In 2011 A. J. Green went no 4 overall.

In 08 McFadden went no 4 overall.

In 07 Calvin Johnson was no 2 overall and Adrian Peterson was taken at 7.

And more and more teams (4-3) are rotating D lineman. They're drafting as many pass rushers as they can and rotate to keep them fresh.

Yeeeaaahhh, and where are those teams at?

Jags were average to mediocre everywhere along their OL save for Monroe. Their team still sucks and Blackmon is a bonehead.

McFadden is a bust.

Calvin Johnson is a great player, but how are the Lions doing with him and their "franchise" QB? They haven't done shit, that's your answer.

Bengals already had a solid OL and were set at both OT positions. They still suck even with A.J. Green and a dominant defense because Andy Dalton can't pull his head out of his own a** sometimes. They are a case of having talent everywhere but not being able to put it together.

Richardson had 2 great OL players in Mack and Thomas. The other 3 are pretty average. Richardson is also a bust btw.

You aren't helping your argument any here. I said good teams don't draft skills positions top 5 unless they fit those qualifiers.

Last time I checked:

Browns, Jags, Lions, and Raiders are all failures. Hell, throw the Bengals in there as well because, on paper, they should be the power house team of the AFC but instead they fail to live up to expectations every year despite having great talent everywhere (except for QB).

Mother****erJones 03-10-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478086)
I never said that. I said it wasn't as important as some make it out to be. I said they want their d-line to excel at stopping the run over rushing the passer. Obviously anyone would want both but, that is rare.

I don't know a lot about this but I think maybe you've mixed up and are thinking about Romeos scheme.

Rausch 03-10-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478089)
You aren't helping your argument any here. I said good teams don't draft skills positions top 5 unless they fit those qualifiers.

Good teams don't ****ing draft in the top 5.

Period.

When was the last time the Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, or Packers, or Saints picked in the top 5?

They ****ing don't because they aren't run by idiots...

O.city 03-10-2014 06:49 PM

Good teams don't draft skill players top 5 because good teams don't draft top 5

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478101)
Good teams don't draft skill players top 5 because good teams don't draft top 5

:clap:

Mugsy 03-10-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10478091)
I don't know a lot about this but I think maybe you've mixed up and are thinking about Romeos scheme.

It's about playing to your players talents man. That's what good coaches do. Our talents are different than the Jets. That's all I am saying here. The Jets never used a safety like we used Berry. We never used a CB like they used Revis. They rarely use OLB like we use Hali and Houston and we can't generate a pass rush like Richardson and Wilkerson can.

Sutton isn't going to pigeon hole himself and Dorsey is going to build off what we excel at. It's common sense.

Rausch 03-10-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478104)
It's about playing to your players talents man. That's what good coaches do. Our talents are different than the Jets. That's all I am saying here. The Jets never used a safety like we used Berry. We never used a CB like they used Revis.

Please, tell me how the responsibilities of the S's and CB's are different.

Mugsy 03-10-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478108)
Please, tell me how the responsibilities of the S's and CB's are different.

Come one man. "Revis Island?" Flowers has never been left alone like that. Do you not see how we use Berry? He's all over the place and playing at the line like Polamalu. You don't see a whole lot of that. He's a rare talent.

Rausch 03-10-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478121)
Come one man. "Revis Island?" Flowers has never been left alone like that.

Yes, he has and was.

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478121)
Do you not see how we use Berry? He's all over the place and playing at the line like Polamalu. You don't see a whole lot of that. He's a rare talent.

You don't know much about the Jets, do you?...

O.city 03-10-2014 06:56 PM

I don't think you have any clue what philosophy you're talking about

Sorter 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478121)
Come one man. "Revis Island?" Flowers has never been left alone like that. Do you not see how we use Berry? He's all over the place and playing at the line like Polamalu. You don't see a whole lot of that. He's a rare talent.

There is so much stupidity in this ****ing post, I might just post in the DC until the end of time.


Like, unimaginably stupid.

Mother****erJones 03-10-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10478129)
There is so much stupidity in this ****ing post, I might just post in the DC until the end of time.


Like, unimaginably stupid.

ROFL go watch Deadly Dozen on netflix to calm you down, it'll cheer you up LMAO

OldSchool 03-10-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478098)
Good teams don't ****ing draft in the top 5.

Period.

When was the last time the Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, or Packers, or Saints picked in the top 5?

They ****ing don't because they aren't run by idiots...

So you want to be the Lions of 2002-2010?

Sorter 03-10-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10478141)
ROFL go watch Deadly Dozen on netflix to calm you down, it'll cheer you up LMAO

*googles "Deadly Dozen" *


http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...The-Office.gif

Mugsy 03-10-2014 07:03 PM

This is so basic. Teams had to game plan around Revis. That's never been the case for Flowers. He's never been a focal point on our defense. Teams have to game plan around Berry. He is a focal point on our defense. When Revis was a Jet, he helped generate a pass rush from the d-line. We do not have the personnel to do that. We have to rely on our elite LB corps. Why wouldn't we? Do you guys want to scrap our cornerstones and mimic the Jets? That doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.


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