Eh. Don't think I buy that theory with modern cars.

I'd love for one of those to blow out while I'm pulling 13,000 pounds in my 8000 pound pickups.

I use plugs on our various ATV's for playtime, no way am I letting that shit touch a highway vehicle with my family in the car.

To each their own, I guess.

Around here if you take your tire to a shop for a nail or screw repair, 9 times out of 10 its getting a plug. Up to you if you want to pay $20+ to have someone else do something thats easily done yourself. These guys arent making money from repairing your tires. They are making money by selling you new tires. So you better believe the cheapest and fastest method in tire repair is going to be the one used most of the time. If you are carrying heavy loads you probably shouldn't be doing it on a tire that's ever been repaired with a plug or patch.

You're correct. Cars that are designed for high octane is just to force consumers to buy more expensive gasoline.

Yeah Walmart's so called mechanics, work for peanuts and to be honest, if they were worth a damn, they would be working anywhere else and would be earning a lot better wage.

I've used Walmart twice for tire work, once on an ATV and once on a Truck. In both cases, it was because I couldn't find anyone else that could get me in quickly. The first time, it was on a truck and I went back when the mechanic was tightening the lug nuts. I wanted to make sure that he was A. using a torque wrench and B. that he knew what the torque spec was for the lugs. Surprisingly, he was using a torque wrench and knew the spec.

The ATV was a different matter. I took one of my ATV's down to have some new tires I had purchased installed, because I was heading out to ride for the next four days. When they were done, I asked the mechanic,(and I use that term loosely)"what spec did you torque those lugs down to." He looked at me with a deer in the headlight look and told me 35 lbs. I said, "that's great, if I wanted a tire and rim flying off on the trail, they are supposed to be torqued down to 75 pounds."

He was all butt hurt and said "You are dead wrong!" I said "come here, lets call my buddy down at the Polaris dealership, who has been a mechanic down there for 30 years." I turned on the speaker phone and my buddy verified that the correct spec was 75 lbs of torque.

When I got home, I grabbed my torque wrench to check his work and I still had to torque the lugs to the correct spec. Even after the correct spec was verified by Polaris, the dipstick only torqued the lugs down to variances of 53 to 61 lbs. Needless to say, I haven't been back.

And that is why I still change my own oil.

I've never seen a plug in a car tire. If I asked our local tire dealer about it they'd probably laugh in my face.

We seem stuck between $4.19 and $4.39 a gallon here in Phoenix metro area.

I feel your pain on the tire repair; bought mine at Goodyear four years ago and haven't put 15k miles on them due to working at home since 3/14/2020. Had a flat and brought the car in. I paid for road hazard insurance and figured it was covered. Nope, now there's a 4 year limit on the road hazard insurance. $30 and three hours to get a tire repaired. He was proud that they put the jack back in the trunk. When I checked, everything was just tossed in the trunk as they couldn't follow the instructions for spare and jack storage.

That's not true. Most legit shops would not mess with plugs for an actual permanent fix.

I've literally watched a legit shop come out to my car to take my tire off to repair a nail puncture only to be fortunate enough to notice that the nail was visible without taking the tire off the car and because my wheels were turned and pushing the nail out of the wheel well they didn't even take the tire off the car to put a plug in.

There is no such thing as a permanent fix to a tire repair. The actual "proper" way to repair a tire would be to install a combo plug and patch. So if you have taken your tires to get repaired and have "never seen a plug in your tire" then guess what, that buddy ol' pal of yours that claims to be doing it the "right way" is lying to you.

I'm not sure why you're so anecdotally fixated on tire plugs. It's not really a typical fix at most shops. It's more of an emergency fix, and shops can't really profit much from it. It's not nearly as reliable of a fix. There's little reason for a shop to mess with it.

I'm not anecdotally fixated on anything.

https://www.carabinshaw.com/unsafe-t...nce-of-da.html

It's the ****ing most common fix. It's not anecdote.

Like I said, to each their own. But it's awfully hilarious to hear a bunch of anecdotes on how improper a plug repair is and how they've never seen a plug in their "properly" repaired tires with a patch only.

I'm not sure why you're so anecdotally fixated on tire plugs. It's not really a typical fix at most shops. It's more of an emergency fix, and shops can't really profit much from it. It's not nearly as reliable of a fix. There's little reason for a shop to mess with it.

I had a tire plugged once.

Got it home, went to sleep, woke up the next morning with my house ransacked, my credit card stolen and a pregnant wife. That was not a good year.

Donger, what are your thoughts on tire plugs?

Where the **** is Billay? He knows all about plugs.

He's not banned from the thread so he should be chiming in any second.

Gas went from 3.04 yesterday to 3.39 today.

No it didn't. /Donger

Oh, ok, my mistake.

5 dollars a plug coming to a walmart near you

Jumped .40 in one day here.

No it didn't. /Donger

Donger, l think you're getting called out here...

Cheapest here in Tempe is now $4.49

****ed up.

Still $4.49 around here, except for the Chevron that posted $5.10 this morning, a $.40 jump from yesterday.

Just paid 5.23 for premium in Suburb of Denver

$4.79 at some places in the east valley

I paid $3.04 today. Glad I don't have to pay those prices.

I live in an area where you pay nearly a dollar difference a gallon for diesel 45 miles apart.

I've plugged tires for over a decade. Necessary in BFE. I've inflated them with carb cleaner & flame too, so...

I just got back from the Skankeny Sam’s. I think it’s a requirement now that every employee smells like BO

Why the sudden rise in prices?

What did our idiotic leaders do this time?

Oil companies are cutting production and its getting warmer now so demand is getting higher. Shortage + higher demand = thinner wallets.

Ooh, and "summer blend" is just around the corner

I am sure the environmental whackjobs in charge are forcing them behind the scenes to do so.

OPEC cut oil production again

I knew CA had really high gas taxes why are all the people in AZ posting here paying 4.50? Gas in KC jumped from 2.95 to 3.15ish range. Which sucks but not pushing $5

We buy it & own a part of the blame. Carpooling not my style

Yes, how can I be of assistance?

I want my 89 cents a gallon back, who do I talk to?

Lol, Pepperidge Farms remembers when this thread first went up, and certain dipsticks were saying how it was all just temporary and that soon enough prices were going to come back down to under $3 because reasons.

The national average of gasoline has fallen below $3.00/gallon multiple times since this thread began.

Not around here. Not around a lot of places, even in this thread. you can pretty it up any way you want, but asshole still looks like asshole. Just saying.

That's why the national average is the only relevant figure.

To you.

This thread is 16 ****ing years old, zero people in 2007 would have said the price of gas would go back down to $3/gallon and stayed there forever. LMAO :doh!:

Inflation alone probably puts the national average closer to $4, if not more.

Would you say the same if people in Texas compared their prices to yours?

^

Here's the thing. You said "the cost of a gallon of gas has been below $3 a couple times."

So what? Has it been under $3 for more weeks than above $3? The same?

since COVID/the inauguration of Biden, I'm betting not. I think mostly it's been above, which makes your statement "it's been under $3 nationally a few times" kind of irrelevant.

The fact is around here gas has been about $2 higher since 2020, period. And around the country it's been higher rather than lower. Try being something other than pedantic.

Can we just go back to the 80's and call it good? We should be allowed a mulligan.

**** yeah, I'd love an IROC and prices for a decent example are crazy these days.

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I haven't perfected time travel yet, sorry.

And I REMEMBER WHEN A GALLON OF MILK WAS $0.79!!!!

So what? Because you said this:

and that soon enough prices were going to come back down to under $3 because reasons

The national average was under $3.00/gallon in the early parts of 2021 and almost got there last December.

I'm not being pedantic. I'm being accurate and you're being emotional. Like I said, national average is what matters overall. I was in California this week and paid $5.10/gallon for regular unleaded. Almost $1.60/gallon higher than the national average.

I'll just take my Z28 back and the ability to get some tickets to beautify the city. ;)

Two dollars higher than what?

You would have liked living in the 80's and 90's, I would drive around town and chicks would occasionally pull their tops up for me. ;)

I did.

Every time I see something like this, it makes me wonder who in their right would continue to vote for the idiots that are running Commiefornia. The people are taced to death. Their cost of living is through the roof. The idiots are banning gas hot water heaters and stoves, gas cars, and putting more strain on an already maxed out power grid. But when election time comes around, the voters go out and say, hey, I like seeing my government screw up evi. I'm going to vote for them again. SMH. Bunch of window licking morons.

Up 18 cents here since yesterday.

National average now $3.68/gallon. Five month high.

Well it's a good thing interest rates are low, property and housing are affordable, and food is dirt cheap!

Oh wait, that was 2017. Come to think of it, gas was actually dirt cheap back then, too. Weird how that works. I like it better this way, though! Because, um, yeah! STFU

This 2017?

Was barely over 2 bucks a gallon around here most of that year. I traveled a lot so remember it very well. Don’t really have time to cherry pick data. Maybe it was closer to 2018.

Crazy fuel saver at Hyvee today. You get the Monday 45-center and then for every $50 you spend, another 25-cent fuel saver.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxVXao8X...jpg&name=large

Nice.

And Donger wept.

Gas was over $5.00 a gallon here in Phoenix area a couple of days ago.

Not only did I fill my tank, I filled my red gas can, too, so I can go longer between fillups.

$2 higher than right before the prices jumped, obviously. right around the summer of 2020, right?

And it's still over $4.85. In 202 i was paying about $2.40, iirc.

And no, I still don't give a rat's ass what the national average is, when I've consistently been paying well over that figure since all this started.


Who in AZ gives a shit what they're paying in TX, unless they're paying those prices here, you obsessively pedantic dipstick.

Slowly creeping up to $5.00 here in SD. Feels like it's been hovering around $4.75 for awhile now.

Why would I weep over a corporation throwing a peasant a bone?

Are you aware what the pandemic did to crude oil and hence gasoline prices in 2020? If not, here:

https://charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gasch...t=US%20%24%2FG

Well, not caring about the national average is silly. Example? You are paying much less than those in CA.

National average is $3.56/gallon, BTW. Down $0.04 from a month ago.

Gasoline $3.829, up $0.30 from a month ago.

Up to 4.00 here.

Thanks, Current Powers.

This thread is ass

06 August, Columbia, MO

$3.69

I paid $5.60/gallon in San Jose last week.

So weird that it would have that effect, with everyone locked down and not traveling. One would think supply would have greatly outweigh demand regardless of supply chain issues. Just one of those "things," I guess...:shrug: