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DeezNutz 06-18-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8686233)
dead. you are.
but i would be happier doing this than moving myers.

I work at Home Depot. Chill.

AndChiefs 06-18-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8686242)
I work at Home Depot. Chill.

You moved on from Lowe's?

sedated 06-18-2012 12:17 PM

Agree to disagree I guess. I’m really looking forward to adding another offensive piece, but I lived through the 1999 season and saw what horrible pitching will do. The LAST thing I want to happen is for all of this offensive talent to walk without having won anything.

If injuries are the biggest issue with pitchers, then my opinion is to stock your farm system with as many as you can get, 3 or 4 times what you think you will need. If a bunch get injured, you’ll still have some. If you end with more than you need, you can flip them for position players in an instant.

On the other hand, we still have Odorizzi on track, Lamb should be coming back to the minors soon and a possibility for 2013, and Duffy will be back in 2014. But is that enough?

mr. tegu 06-18-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8686246)
Agree to disagree I guess. I’m really looking forward to adding another offensive piece, but I lived through the 1999 season and saw what horrible pitching will do. The LAST thing I want to happen is for all of this offensive talent to walk without having won anything.

If injuries are the biggest issue with pitchers, then my opinion is to stock your farm system with as many as you can get, 3 or 4 times what you think you will need. If a bunch get injured, you’ll still have some. If you end with more than you need, you can flip them for position players in an instant.

On the other hand, we still have Odorizzi on track, Lamb should be coming back to the minors soon and a possibility for 2013, and Duffy will be back in 2014. But is that enough?

Duffy...man that was just a killer right there. He was the first influx of the farm system starters and was starting to pitch really well. He needed to learn to control his pitch count better but he was starting to look really good :mad:

DeezNutz 06-18-2012 12:22 PM

Myers' power numbers right now are ridiculously impressive. Last year, in approx. 100 ABs, Hosmer had 3 or 4 HRs in AAA. Roughly the same number of ABs, and Myers has 11.

Several of us have been saying that he has the distinct possibility to be the best of the bunch (thinking primarily of the "big 3": Moose, Hosmer, and Myers).

sedated 06-18-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8686254)
Myers' power numbers right now are ridiculously impressive. Last year, in approx. 100 ABs, Hosmer had 3 or 4 HRs in AAA. Roughly the same number of ABs, and Myers has 11.

Several of us have been saying that he has the distinct possibility to be the best of the bunch (thinking primarily of the "big 3": Moose, Hosmer, and Myers).

[boner]

when is the super 2 deadline?

DeezNutz 06-18-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8686344)
[boner]

when is the super 2 deadline?

About another week. Best guess since no one really knows for sure.

Dr. Johnny Fever 06-18-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8686347)
About another week. Best guess since no one really knows for sure.

I know basically what super 2 is and what it means for keeping players under control longer but how exactly does it work? I mean how do we know when a player is qualified?

DeezNutz 06-18-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8686419)
I know basically what super 2 is and what it means for keeping players under control longer but how exactly does it work? I mean how do we know when a player is qualified?

Kind of shitty article, but it helps explain things, especially if you follow the "super two status" link:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...prospects.html

By keeping Myers and OdorEazy down, Glass saves money. That's all it is, so that's why I've long claimed that waiting for a deadline is a bullshit way of doing business and screams cheap and bush league. That said, most teams do the exact same thing, so our owner isn't unusual in any sense in this case.

DeezNutz 06-18-2012 02:14 PM

"But he's saving millions that we can then put into our ML payroll!"

Riiiiigggggghhhhttttttt...

Dr. Johnny Fever 06-18-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8686429)
Kind of shitty article, but it helps explain things, especially if you follow the "super two status" link:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...prospects.html

By keeping Myers and OdorEazy down, Glass saves money. That's all it is, so that's why I've long claimed that waiting for a deadline is a bullshit way of doing business and screams cheap and bush league. That said, most teams do the exact same thing, so our owner isn't unusual in any sense in this case.

Thank you.

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-18-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8686431)
"But he's saving millions that we can then put into our ML payroll!"

Riiiiigggggghhhhttttttt...

Just like Meche did the right thing by giving the remainder of his contract back to the Royals.

He did the franchise no favors. He only did the Glass family a favor. Cause they certainly didn't put it back into the team.

KevB 06-18-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 8686460)
Just like Meche did the right thing by giving the remainder of his contract back to the Royals.

He did the franchise no favors. He only did the Glass family a favor. Cause they certainly didn't put it back into the team.

They've spent that, and then some on acquiring young talent in the draft and internationally. I'm not going to argue about major league talent acquisition, but he's put relatively significant money into the minor league system.

duncan_idaho 06-18-2012 02:47 PM

No way I trade Myers. Just no way. The value you get for a young, stud hitter is just much higher and less risky than a young, stud pitcher.

I have a giant boner for Dylan Bundy and Trevor Bauer, and I wouldn't move him for either of those guys.

I'm all for stocking the farm system with pitching prospects and moving them when appropriate, for more ML-ready pitching.

IF the Royals were smart, they'd move some sort of trade package around to get someone like Garza/Josh Johnson. The package I suggested earlier might work there. As long as the names Myers (untouchable) or Montgomery (trade value is too depressed to make trading him worth it at this time) aren't involved, it's good.

You can move Odorizzi, but it sure as hell better be for a guy who is already established at the MLB level at around Odo's upside. And for somebody you either: 1) Control for 3-4 years; 2) Are confident you can sign to an extension/long-term deal.

eazyb81 06-18-2012 03:02 PM

I would easily trade Montgomery if a decent offer came along. He has been mediocre for about two years now with poor peripherals.


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