Add to this that Geno Smith is highly intelligent. The New York Times ran a piece on him in September.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/sp...pagewanted=all

A few highlights for the lazy:
Grouped with other students classified as gifted, Smith was taught an advanced curriculum emphasizing creativity and the arts. He wrote stories and poetry, acted in the school’s production of “The Nutcracker” and competed in chess tournaments. In fifth grade, he won an oratorical contest reciting work by the poet Langston Hughes. But he enjoyed sketching cartoon characters the most.

“If it’s not right, I’m not just going to leave it alone,” Smith said. “I want things to be right and be perfect.” With football, as in his art, the result needed to be “exactly the way you wanted it to come out, or how you’ve seen it in your mind.”

Coach Dana Holgorsen arrived in 2011 with his Air Raid offense, Smith threw for 4,385 yards, fourth most in the country. The Air Raid — predicated on matching a dozen route combinations to get receivers in open space — required a quarterback with a certain mental capacity, Holgorsen said. At Miramar, Smith had designed his own plays. Now, some opponents begged Smith to ease up. On a given snap, Smith read defenses, forecast which receivers would be open, felt pressure, counted time using an internal clock, faked to the options he knew were futile and found an open receiver and led him to an empty pocket of grass.

This kind of intelligence is a requirement to be elite.

Is that to me or am I missing something?...

Indeed.

There are a lot of high-quality, intelligent posters on the Smith bandwagon, and it seems pretty clear that he's the #1 QB in this draft.

Directed at Chiefzilla.

Deeznuts thanks

I'm still going back and forth who will better though I love geno but the Wilson kid to go through with what he has had to at Arkansas this year shows a lot of moxy. This is what this team could use too. So the guys backing geno why is he the pick over Wilson.

And there you go. Again putting words in people's mouths.
I said when an absolute worst case scenario is to be a running qb like Vick, that's a really good floor. I said the more realistic floor for rgIII is he is a pocket qb with ability to extend pass plays with his mobility. Don't sell this bullshit story that I have ever said I like rgIII because I think he is a running qb like Vick.

I get your point that you think geno has better pocket presence than rgIII. But I'm sorry, the speed disadvantage... Geno can't extend plays in the same way rgIII can. You can't design an offense around moving geno around in the pocket like Washington can with rgIII. Geno is a qb who you don't want to use athleticism unless it is a last resort. Geno HAS to succeed by making lightning quick decisions as a pocket passer. RgIII should and can, but he doesn't need to. Tremendous difference.

"Smith threw ball. COMPLETED BALL! Smith had internal clock."

Horribly written.

RGIII and Luck had elite intelligence. That is rare.

He's smart enough to know when and how to hit wide open WR's...

You are full of shit.

I am not putting words into your mouth.

I didn't say that you said he was running QB Michael Vick, but you did say his absolute floor is exactly that.

And I don't give a rat's ass if you can't design an offense to use Smith's mobility like you can wirh RGIII, though, surprise, I disagree with you on that too, but Smith has the mobility to escape pressure and extend plays.

You try to make this case that he has to make quick decision from the pocket, and as I said to start this post, you arte full of shit, you dipshit.

Don't give me that bullshit.

He is comparing Genos stats to luck and using lucks interception track record as justification for wh his success was overstated.

He continues to imply that luck succeeded because of talent whereas geno doesn't have that. I pushed back and said lucks biggest reason for success was much more about a flawless skill set and off the charts football iq. Sac is selling to us that geno could step into Stanford and do the same things luck did.

He is trying to downplay lucks resume, trying to imply luck wouldn't have succeeded with Genos supporting cast, and strongly implying that geno could have succeeded in Stanford's football iq heavy offense in the same way luck did.

Give me a break. Just because he's on your side now doesnt mean ou should act like all of a sudden his exaggerated optimism is suddenly acceptable.

Watch the tape /BlackBob

See, this is the circle that happens. Somebody makes a bold claim one way or the other, then the person who AGREES with that person regarding the player but not the bold claim steps in and says stuff like this shit.

Geno Smith has a very, very high football IQ. Had he been recruited and placed in that very system that Luck went into, he absolutely could have come out of it showing the same level of poise and command of the offense that Luck did.

You are putting words in my mouth and exaggerating. The fact that you care more about what I say a guys floor is versus his realistic potential is cherrypicking.

He is going to have to excel as a pocket passer if he wants to be a franchise qb. He's not going to do it in the way big Ben does, which is to be a guy who gets knocked around. He's not going to do it with elusiveness as rgIII can. He will use mobility as a last resort bailout. If you want to build an offense around it being ok for him to hold on to the ball too long, you are out of your mind. He has to make quicker decisions, he has to learn to quickly look off his primary read and go through progressions, and he has to adjust the protections pre-snap because he can't use his physical body to bail him out if he misses a protection or blitz.

Again... I believe he has the character and work ethic to do it. But the idea that he can use his athletic ability to build his game around bailing out is just wrong.

And he hesitates to pull the trigger quite often. Just like Matt Cassel.

Watch the tape, CaliforniaChief

Just. Like. Matt. Cassel.

I have praised Genos football iq. His character. His work ethic.

I said lucks was off the charts. That isn't a knock on geno, that's to say no qb the past 10 years has shown the same football iq luck has. Geno had success in a pro system, but lets not pretend he was asked to use even close to the same type of iq luck did. As I've said, luck was doing things pre snap many experienced nfl qbs can't do.

Even trying to benchmark geno off luck is just plain silly.