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CaliforniaChief 09-05-2009 11:23 PM

Not sure if this has been posted, but can someone explain how waiver claims are determined on these guys who have been cut?

"Bob" Dobbs 09-05-2009 11:33 PM

According to http://www.dawgtalkers.net/showflat....76&an=0&page=0 :




ARTICLE XXII



WAIVER SYSTEM

Section 1. Release:

(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period. If the waivers occur after that time, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club. However, if such player is claimed and awarded, he shall have the option to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the League Year in question if he has a no-trade clause in his Player Contract. If such player does not have a no-trade clause and the Player Contract being awarded through waivers covers more than one additional season, the player shall have the right to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent as set forth above at the end of the League Year following the League Year in which he is waived and awarded.

(b) Whenever a player who has finished less than the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.

Section 2. Contact: Coaches or any other persons connected with another NFL Club are prohibited from contacting any player placed on waivers until such time as the player is released by the waiving Club.

Section 3. Ineligibility: Any NFL player who is declared ineligible to compete in a pre-season, regular season or post-season game because of a breach by any NFL Club by whom he is employed of waiver procedures and regulations, or any other provision of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws, will be paid the salary or other compensation which he would have received if he had not been declared ineligible, which, in any event, will be a minimum of one week’s salary and, when applicable, expense payments.

Section 4. Notice of Termination: The Notice of Termination form attached hereto as Appendix G will be used by all Clubs. If possible, the Notice of Termination will be personally delivered to the player prior to his departure from the team. If the Notice of Termination has not been personally delivered to the player prior to his departure from the team, the Notice of Termination will be sent to him by certified mail at his last address on file with the Club.



***Waiver system: The procedure by which a player's contract or NFL rights are made available by his current team to other teams in the league. During the procedure, the 31 other teams either file a claim to obtain the player or waive the opportunity to do so, thus the term waiver. The claiming period is typically ten days during the off-season, but from early July through December, it lasts only 24 hours. If a player is claimed by two or more teams in this period, priority is based on the inverse won-lost standing of the teams. The team with the worst record has priority. If no team selects the player, he's free to sign with any team, including his previous employer. If no one signs him, he is unemployed — technically fired from the NFL.

CaliforniaChief 09-05-2009 11:36 PM

Thanks for posting this! So unless the Lions or the Lambs (sounds so biblical) want someone, we can get anyone we want that doesn't have 4 years or qualify as a "vested veteran." Nice.

"Bob" Dobbs 09-05-2009 11:39 PM

That's how I read it. So yeah. Nice! Is anyone aware of any OL needs in DET or STL that'll cause us issues with this?

salame 09-06-2009 12:50 AM

poor lokey

veist 09-06-2009 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6038509)
The line is 5.5, not 6.5.

I voted in the other thread that they'll be 2-14. The point is that 1-15 isn't out of the realm of reason and there's probably a 5% chance they could go 0-16, especially if Cassel misses a significant amount of the season.

Honestly, saying there is even a 5% chance anyone goes 0-16 is unrealistic given the history of the league. There are what like 4 win less seasons that I'm aware of in the history of the NFL? Prior to 0-16 the last one was in '82 with the Baltimore Colts going 0-8-1 in a strike season. The odds against it have to be more like 99% because it just requires a systematic failure organizationally throughout the season to sustain that imo. Its just too big of a confluence of events and bad coaching/management that seems really unlikely. Even with the problems of this roster.

The Bad Guy 09-06-2009 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6038531)
You know what's so ridiculous about the people that attack me for thinking the Chiefs will win 2 games or less?

I have multiple reasons for my reasoning. Those who disagree have none.

No one has told me how we're going to replace 1,000 yards receiving and 10 TD's.

No one's told me how we're going to stop the run, especially up the middle.

No one's told me how we're going to run the ball, score in the red zone and protect the QB with this offensive line.

No one's told me who's going to successfully return kicks and punts.

There are a TON of reasons why the Chiefs won't have a successful season. But there are many people that dispute that without any reasoning.

Unicorns and rainbows.

There's a huge difference in saying the Chiefs will be 0-16 and then asking for reasons why we will be successful.

This team will not be a successful team in 2009. That doesn't mean they will go winless. They have a ton of holes, and no, they won't replace Gonzalez.

I think this is one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL. But I do think they can go 3-13, 4-12 based on improved coaching.

Hootie 09-06-2009 01:37 AM

dude...pollard is shocking...ok, he's a bust...but he could AT LEAST be a special teams ace

salame 09-06-2009 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6039132)
dude...pollard is shocking...ok, he's a bust...but he could AT LEAST be a special teams ace

mcgraw dude

The Bad Guy 09-06-2009 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6039132)
dude...pollard is shocking...ok, he's a bust...but he could AT LEAST be a special teams ace

I agree. I don't know why you don't keep him over McGraw.

Hootie 09-06-2009 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6039138)
I agree. I don't know why you don't keep him over McGraw.

all I'm saying is...

his rookie season...those blocked punts + he was a great gunner on punt coverage...

I don't get it...

sit him down and be like...dude, you're not going to be anything but a backup...but you're going to be our special teams ace...

I mean...that doesn't vaporate over night...a 2-14 team shouldn't consistently have players being picked up off of waivers...and you know he's going to be claimed...no doubt, for sure.

Hootie 09-06-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6039136)
mcgraw dude

and you know what...he looked (shockingly) very good in preseason...I know he is who he is...but McGraw impressed me...

THAT BEING SAID...

Pioli said...offense/defense AND special teams...

and you know what...Pollard, at the very least, could be a great NFL special teamer....

salame 09-06-2009 01:44 AM

pollard will be claimed asap

Hootie 09-06-2009 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6039144)
pollard will be claimed asap

oh I know...

and as a 2-14 team

it doesn't make sense

but whatever...

call me a "true fan", but I have total, 100% faith in the new regime...and I don't care what that makes me.

salame 09-06-2009 01:47 AM

I am calling denver taking pollard


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