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doomy3 11-30-2011 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8157715)
Imagine this team with Barkley or Griffin throwing to Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and Jimmy Graham, rather than Moeaki.
Yep, passing on Graham for Moeaki is going to haunt us for a long time.

I remember you being high on him going into that draft too. Guy is a freak.

Titty Meat 11-30-2011 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8157715)
Imagine this team with Barkley or Griffin throwing to Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and Jimmy Graham, rather than Moeaki.
Here come the Hawkeye homers....

JCharles1981 11-30-2011 10:46 PM
Tyler Palko: Coach, I know I threw 3 interceptions, and fumbled a snap in our loss to the Steelers. But, I know I can do better.

Todd Haley: Don't worry about it. Our season is shot anyway, so go ahead and start practicing for our game next week against Chicago.

BossChief 11-30-2011 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8157715)
Imagine this team with Barkley or Griffin throwing to Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and Jimmy Graham, rather than Moeaki.
At this point, there really is no argument to this.

The good thing is that the injury happened early enough that he has a whole year to rehab it. He has shown to be a possible budding star that is not only a really reliable receiver that finds ways to get open, but is also a weapon in helping to neutralize good pass rushers and help open holes in the running game.

Titty Meat 11-30-2011 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8157764)
At this point, there really is no argument to this.

The good thing is that the injury happened early enough that he has a whole year to rehab it and to injure it again next year. He has shown to be a possible budding star that is not only a really reliable receiver that finds ways to get open, but is also a weapon in helping to neutralize good pass rushers and help open holes in the running game.
This.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-30-2011 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8157764)
At this point, there really is no argument to this.

The good thing is that the injury happened early enough that he has a whole year to rehab it. He has shown to be a possible budding star that is not only a really reliable receiver that finds ways to get open, but is also a weapon in helping to neutralize good pass rushers and help open holes in the running game.
Moeaki is a more complete player than Graham, but Graham is an absolute matchup nightmare who dictates coverages. Were both healthy and had a history of so, a fair argument could be made that they are roughly equivalent players that bring different skillsets, but given Moeaki's checked past and present, it's not as even of a matchup as it could be.

NJChiefsFan 11-30-2011 10:59 PM
Not to mention the guys throwing to them. If you gave Brees Moeaki I think he would be doing pretty well for himself as well. Not saying they are even, but it sure doesn't hurt. Same thing with Welker in NE. I would be interested to see just how effective Welker would be without an extremely accurate QB.

BossChief 11-30-2011 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8157775)
Moeaki is a more complete player than Graham, but Graham is an absolute matchup nightmare who dictates coverages. Were both healthy and had a history of so, a fair argument could be made that they are roughly equivalent players that bring different skillsets, but given Moeaki's checked past and present, it's not as even of a matchup as it could be.
sucks but true.

I think its fair to say Moeaki is a better fit for our offense, though.

What he does when he is not running routes is pretty damn good.

MMXcalibur 11-30-2011 11:08 PM
Christ, you couldn't make the quest for 4-12 any more obvious unless www.kcchiefs.com put "L"'s next to each game from here on out.

If Stanzi's so unprepared to fill in, why not give him first string reps heading into the week?

TEX 11-30-2011 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8157685)
How can you say the talent was a joke, when 3 years later, other than Berry the best players on the team were inherited from the previous staff?

Carr, Flowers, Hali and DJ are the core of the defense. With Berry, those are by far the 5 best defenders on the team.

Albert is still the best offensive lineman, and Waters would be the 2nd best if he wasn't traded. Bowe is still the best receiver by far, Charles the best RB and Battle the best backup RB. TG was much better than any TE KC has put on the field.

In 3 years they've added 1 impact defender in Berry, and 1 potential impact TE who is/was always injured (and non-injured TE's who are just as good or better were available).
Pretty much right on. Cant really see where the roster has drmatically improved, other than WR, since Pioli took over.

Nightfyre 12-01-2011 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8157715)
Imagine this team with Barkley or Griffin throwing to Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and Jimmy Graham, rather than Moeaki.
This team with Griffin is a superbowl contender as soon as he is ready to take the reigns. The offense would be unstoppable. Given the defenses performance (without Berry) against the potent Steeler offense, I can only imagine how good they would look if we won the time of possession battle. Our defense has to be tore up for how much they've been on the field this year.

boogblaster 12-01-2011 12:18 AM
ima ashamed .. again again again again and again .. will it ever stop ....

Nightfyre 12-01-2011 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8157815)
Pretty much right on. Cant really see where the roster has drmatically improved, other than WR, since Pioli took over.
We have seen major improvement at WR, G, depth at CB, depth in the front seven, and safety.

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2011 12:28 AM
Barkley was on SportsCenter and Versus tonight. Kid has it all really. He is a marketing dream.

NJChiefsFan 12-01-2011 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8157913)
Barkley was on SportsCenter and Versus tonight. Kid has it all really. He is a marketing dream.
I think as of now I would take him first. To be honest I would be happy as hell to have him or RG3. I see the potential with Griffin, but my gut says Barkley from what I have seen. I haven't really seen enough of Griffin.


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