The fact that you think this is only about Cassel is laughable. Cassel is the glaring, festering boil on the face of the franchise.

But one only need to investigate slightly to know that the infection is systemic.

I agree, but the situation is what it is. We have Cassel and Stanzi. That's it right now. Lots of things could happen this offseason, and any number of them would take the attention right back away from this crap and on to the actual team again, which is where it should be.

Yeah but he's a quality starter. It was and could've been a more Casselish issue.

Here's the thing - Cassel is just a symptom.

The guy makes them lock the doors to the media room - reporters have to have an escort to go to the bathroom. He makes staff members with offices that face the field pull their blinds.

All of this non-football stuff is VERY important, especially when you add it to moves like Cassel and Jackson, the dysfunctional relationship with HIS first HC hire, and all of the other actual football moves.

There's mounting evidence to suggest the guy doesn't know what it takes to build a winning franchise.

Here is my biggest problem with most GMs these days.


They get hired by a struggling franchise that just fired their GM. They come from a successful franchise where they likely weren't the GM, but think that they played a big part in the success. They immediately try to imitate the processes that went on in the previous job.

I realize you do what you are comfortable with, but at some point you have to do your own thing. Right?

This whole thing is basically a political argument, and just like politics, it will never be won by either side.

I can't wait until we start receiving information about who our OC will be, what changes we might make in free agency, draft speculation as the draft gets closer, etc. so we can start talking about the fun stuff again.

Thomas Dmitroff doesn't appear to have too many problems doing things his own way...

I was basing this more off what our genious has done.

Guess I shouldn't have said most GMS

He might not. I'd say he's got three more years to prove otherwise, not for most here, but for Hunt.

The hard thing is what if the team goes 10-6 or 11-5 or something next year, wins the division, then a couple of 8-8 type seasons under Crennel? I say Hunt still would drop Pioli.

What if we hire some Patriot position coach, sign 2 or 3 no-name FAs like last year, and approach the draft like 2009?

Nothing about this is fun right now.

At this point, htis, what would change your opinion of Pioli?

If we bring in Clements as OC, make some big free agency splashes and have a good draft?

Because he's the one guy who does things his own way, not the Patriot Way.

EDIT: Derp. Misread the post.

Unless we get weird seasons like this one, 8-8 would mean no playoffs.

2 playoff berths in 6 years would probably be plenty enough for Clark to let him go.

I'll be really concerned if we hire a former Pat coach as OC.

Honestly, my opinion was starting to change when he fired Haley. Then they locked the doors and started with the CIA bullshit again.

Hiring Romeo is certainly a big problem for me.

I want to see Scott step WAY outside his comfort zone. Stray from the "Patriot" way and do something different for a change.