I like to do the right job, you apparently don't. That's what it came down to.

1/8th off a brake line isn't how it came off the showroom floor like you touted about 4-5 pages back. Seems contradictory.

And of course you'd tell me that you have the credentials, but don't need to "prove them" to anyone else.

It still doesn't make them real, buddy.:thumb:

And considering you couldn't tell me which tests you take for your "master tech", something you'd know by heart, Yeah, I'd prone to call bullshit on them as somebody who is well versed in the ASE world.


Which is worse?

Adjust book hours by 10% more? Or falsely hanging an ASE sign at your shop and telling people you are, in fact, ASE certified in a field you aren't certified in?

How's that for ethics asshole?

Well douche I've actually got the certificates hanging.

And I don't even have the ase sign on the outside of my building. No need. It doesn't mean shit.

I only got the certs sure to the fact a dealership will pay out the ass got you to get them.

And you must just not fix brake lines. Because no one doing them at a shop had the machine to make them exactly factory type.


Not even you buddy
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All I hear is bullshit and excuses coming out of your mouth dude.

I think we're done here.

Hit me up in a month when you want another schooling in business, I'll be sure to make you a pop up book with pictures so you can follow along with the adults.:thumb:

Don't suppose you know anything about wholesale, liquidations, and distributions do you? I don't want to have another profitable business failure on my hands here.

And if you knew half as much about ase as you claim I gave enough hints at what tests I didn't need to take to be master certified that you would know that I was legit.

Just like the ford brake system you didn't know, but you work on fords every day.


One person is full of shit and it damn sure is not me. Hell another poster that had met quite a few people here even stated what I have said is true in regards to my shop. He knows because he's been there multiple times and lives over an hour away.
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Yeah, thats why I just put it in my labor rate. Id rather be a little more up front about the price.

However I dont fault exorter for doing it his way. I know plenty of shop owners who do it that way and they are good guys.

All those degrees in auto aren't going to help much with that...


One of us has owned several businesses and they are no longer in operation.and is now trying to start another after going to work in a dealership to make more money. Lol

One of us has a successful business that works every day.

Which knows more about business?
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I agree with the way you do it. Anything else just doesn't seem right. Why try to make the customer FEEL like they got a great deal? Why not just give them one?
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:spock:

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Did this thread just fizzle out?

I love talking to other shop owners and Techs...Darn.

My $.02.. there is a REASON mechanics are generally seen as scumbag ripoff artists. That stereotype didn't just appear out of thin air. Defending something as common practice in that industry is not a glowing endorsement.

Oh and I have a funny "Mexican" story to add for Hootie's benefit...

I called a tiny little tire place that was down the street and asked if they could fix a wheel that had a bent rim that was causing the tire to leak. The guy on the phone barely spoke english but I gathered that he was saying yes, just to swing by. So I told him what car I was driving ('66 Impala) and to expect me in a few minutes. Now here if the funny part... I pulled up and stopped the car in front of the what appeared to be the head guy outside. He motioned to some other dudes and BY THE TIME I STEPPED OUT of my car they had the wheel off. I shit you not. I closed the door and walked up to the guy and they had the tire off and were banging away at the wheel. A total of 5 minutes later and my wheel was fixed and back on my car and I asked the guy how much I owed him and he said... twelve. I gave him a $20 and drove away happy as a clam. Fantastic experience. Have sent them a ton of business since. Still cracks me up that the ****ers jacked my car up and took the wheel off before I was even out of the car!

I didn't disagree with you, you were asking a specific question without giving me specific information. You can't fault the student for a terrible lesson.

I mean, if you want to battle wits over cars, I'll gladly oblige you, it shouldn't take long :thumb:

There's a few ways to skin a rabbit, all that matters is that you aren't trying to cheat your customers.:thumb:

They are no longer in operation? Yeah, Calverts buys shops and closes them down. You sure do know your stuff.LMAO:LOL:

One of us went to school for an automotive degree, one of us got one, one of us has more than 10 ASE certifications, and more than 4 different certifications through dealerships, including 3 training program certificates from Honda alone.

One of us ran a business so we could go through college to do this, one of us didn't.

I wonder, who is the one who got an education, started his own business from the ground up and ran profitably, closed it to get MORE education, started another business, ran it profitably, sold it to another company and took a higher paying job.

One of us actually started multiple successful businesses.

One of us actually started a business from the ground up.

Do you know who that person was?

It wasn't you.

Yet you think you know more about business than I do?

Dude, put the pipe down.....

Who says you aren't giving the customer a great deal the other way?

Don't use those guys. They don't understand business or something.

Wait wut?

You drive a 66?
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Hell there goes another assumption. I didn't start from the ground up. The business was just magically there.
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And see I have a ton of certs from GM. I used to be a lead tech at a very high profile dealership in kc. But you assumed I don't have them
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