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FAX 04-25-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 14231069)
They’ve both lost their son and Hill isn’t going to get a huge contract from anyone. Even if he does everything right from here on out (and doesn’t get charged again) he will be 27-28 before he gets another big dollar deal... if ever. His family is destroyed as well. He has to divorce just to stay out of jail IMO.

This is probably some pretty darn good forecasting.

When you take into account all the ancillary issues, there's probably enough in the LP version of the news report alone to put a halt to his immediate career plans. The 2nd strike aspect is pretty devastating.

If it's true that the DA had no access to this tape, the crap will hit the fan for real.

FAX

Titty Meat 04-25-2019 10:01 PM

Anyone else think the Chiefs will ride out his 10 game suspension? National media hasnt picked up on this be ause of the draft. Might have some extra capital with them dumping Hunt and they are a super bowl contender.

scho63 04-25-2019 10:01 PM

I gave him the benefit of the doubt. This tape now removes that doubt and he should be released.

It saddens me for the child, makes me pissed as **** as a Chiefs fan that we are ALWAYS GETTING ****ED.

So the #1 rusher and top #3 receiver in the NFL will be gone from our team in a little over a year.

What a ****ing cluster**** of an organization. We look Raideresque.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-25-2019 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14231181)
Want to debate? Fine. Let's start with this ...

Against every sincere effort on my part to avoid arriving at a specific and potentially premature determination, I eventually came to the conclusion that you are a pompous, pretentious, self-righteous poopypants whose online persona exists to shield an intense, internal weakness of character.

Prove me wrong.

FAX

I don't have to, because you're deflecting from debating the issue at hand, and an attempt to deflect is a sign that you have a losing argument.

You said you won't defend abusers, yet we all know that Hill beat his fiancee, and we know because he admitted it. Whether or not it was expunged doesn't change the fact that the abuse occurred.

You also went off on a half-cocked line of bullshit about what was on the audio despite not even knowing what was on the audio. He is directly accused of punching his son in the chest and hitting him with the belt. At no point does he deny that. He also tells his fiancee that she should be terrified of him too. Despite all of that, you still claim that this is a premature rush to judgment.

There's a difference between taking a measured approach to a nebulous situation and being too stubborn and arrogant to admit that you were mistaken and misinformed. Not being able to do that is the actual indicator of a lack of character, and I'm not the one displaying it in this exchange.

To quote a recent column, "Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue."

Shiver Me Timbers 04-25-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14231225)
This is probably some pretty darn good forecasting.

When you take into account all the ancillary issues, there's probably enough in the LP version of the news report alone to put a halt to his immediate career plans. The 2nd strike aspect is pretty devastating.

If it's true that the DA had no access to this tape, the crap will hit the fan for real.

FAX

I have a suspicion the DA knew of the tape before his press conference but could not comment on it. Crystal's friend might have turned it over out of concern for the kid not $$$.

Aspengc8 04-25-2019 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14231232)
Anyone else think the Chiefs will ride out his 10 game suspension? National media hasnt picked up on this be ause of the draft. Might have some extra capital with them dumping Hunt and they are a super bowl contender.

If he even gets a 10 game suspension. I didn't hear him admit to beating his child in the audio and I'm not sure the NFL can suspend based off circumstantial stuff. Not saying what happened is wrong, just based off what I heard in the top post he didnt admit to anything. Wonder if the full audio is somewhere to listen to.

big nasty kcnut 04-25-2019 10:09 PM

The thing is it only audio unless there video proof you can't suspend him. Plus he was recordes without his knowledge since he in missouri it entrapment.

kcpasco 04-25-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14231232)
Anyone else think the Chiefs will ride out his 10 game suspension? National media hasnt picked up on this be ause of the draft. Might have some extra capital with them dumping Hunt and they are a super bowl contender.

Maybe that should bother your moral compass. They care more about the draft than child abuse.

Discuss Thrower 04-25-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 14231267)
The thing is it only audio unless there video proof you can't suspend him. Plus he was recordes without his knowledge since he in missouri it entrapment.

Wasn't recorded in Missouri.

Or the USA for that matter, apparently.

NWTF 04-25-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14231225)
This is probably some pretty darn good forecasting.

When you take into account all the ancillary issues, there's probably enough in the LP version of the news report alone to put a halt to his immediate career plans. The 2nd strike aspect is pretty devastating.

If it's true that the DA had no access to this tape, the crap will hit the fan for real.

FAX

I think the NFL will react based on the tape. Not that its definitive proof Hill broke the kids arm, but it doesnt help his case at all. The NFL will want to get ahead of the situation before anything else comes out.

DomCasual 04-25-2019 10:13 PM

Good on the lion’s share of folks here for not trying to defend this POS.

ghak99 04-25-2019 10:22 PM

Chiefs learned of this in real time.

Sounds like they're going to sit on him and let things play out a while.

mr. tegu 04-25-2019 10:25 PM

Regarding the recording, I’m guessing this was presented to the investigation but the two of them denied its importance or downplayed it so the prosecution couldn’t really use it. But the friend, perhaps thinking she’s doing the right thing or perhaps just has a grudge, releases the audio out of anger towards both of them and to specifically get Hill in trouble by continuing to ruin him.

It definitely isn’t good for Espinal so that leads me to think the friend was mad about no charge and took action on her own without thinking it may look bad on her. I’m sure the friend had many conversations with Espinal and was disappointed that in her view she might be protecting Hill or even be a possible suspect herself. Even if the prosecution didn’t hear this the reasoning behind the audio release as I suspect it is still a strong possibility.

rabblerouser 04-25-2019 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 14231202)
If that turns out to be the case than **** this whole organization.

What, that he was whipping his kid's ass and the kid twisted wrong and broke his arm?

****, I remember as a kid, running from my Dad because I was going to get my ass beat and ran right into a steel beam hanging out of the back of the truck, damn near knocked myself out.

rabblerouser 04-25-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14231356)
Regarding the recording, I’m guessing this was presented to the investigation but the two of them denied its importance or downplayed it so the prosecution couldn’t really use it. But the friend, perhaps thinking she’s doing the right thing or perhaps just has a grudge, releases the audio out of anger towards both of them and to specifically get Hill in trouble by continuing to ruin him.

It definitely isn’t good for Espinal so that leads me to think the friend was mad about no charge and took action on her own without thinking it may look bad on her. I’m sure the friend had many conversations with Espinal and was disappointed that in her view she might be protecting Hill or even be a possible suspect herself. Even if the prosecution didn’t hear this the reasoning behind the audio release as I suspect it is still a strong possibility.

The recording proves nothing except that she is an admitted liar who baits Tyreek.


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