We were damn lucky to play in the SB this year. In the AFCCG Mahomes' receiving core was Skyy Moore, MVS and Marcus Kemp. Why not give Mahomes a superstar and go scorched earth on people. Veach killed the draft last year and acquired a TON of cheap talent. Why not celebrate that and go buy yourself something pretty??

LOL it's not, that is called saying it as a bargaining tactic, it likely ends up as him being traded for a 4.

Yeah, why not totally eschew the strategy that got you there?

If he's soo wonderful his price only goes up for empty stadiums

Have we traded for this piece of shit yet?

Have to check and see what Tyreek did for ticket sales in Miami

Eschew the strategy?? NFL GMs hope and pray they have consecutive successful drafts to put themselves in position to go out there and acquire future HOF players. Lets not act like if the ball bounces the other way in the Cincy games 2022 and 2023 we win the SB with Tyreek in 2022 and lose the AFCCG in 2023. If one play goes the other way in each game everyone would be pounding the table claiming we need a superstar receiver to push us over the edge again.

What cap?

Send MVS with a pick to the Cards for Hopkins....Saves $7M in Cap

Then don't resign JuJu....Saves what about $15M?

According to OTC, Hopkins Cap hit to the team trading for him would be $19.45M.

This means that having Hopkins would be cheaper than having both MVS and JuJu.

The Chiefs have plenty of things they can do to easily open cap space, the cap isn't an issue.

Bring in D-Hop, let MVS & Hardman walk. Draft Tank Dell or see if Raiders want to do business dealing Renfrow.

Juju
Hopkins
Toney
Skyy
Kelce
Dell

You're suggesting cutting MVS?

Absolutely, cutting him saves $7 million in cap space.

Lol, whatever.

Like whether DHop ultimately is a first ballot HOFer 6-10 years from now matters in this particular conversation. What I think vs. what you appear to think about DHop are not the same, but so what?

It's what he can do right now for the offense, for Toney/Skyy, for Kelce, and Pat that's pertinent here. And if you can't see that DHop is one of the best to ever do it, well, i think you're wrong, but let's leave that part out of the conversation. He is still a top-10 WR in everyone's book, and plays a skillset that would be a perfect fit for the offense.

Then there's what he could do for our young WR room in terms of game prep, body/health management, situational awareness, etc. Things that don't currently exist in that room.

There's going to be plenty of years when the Chiefs trot out WR rooms that are populated entirely by JAGs as Pat's cap hit grows, but this next couple three seasons don't have to be a part of that period.

And people really need to stop trying to use the "Patriot Way" as an example of how to maintain a dynasty. Let's not forget that they went ten years without a SB W. And who were their WRs during that period? Can anyone remember who their WR1/WR2 combos were during that time?

How about GB? They had arguably the best QB in NFL history (before Mahomes) at the helm, and chose to populate his WR room with JAGs for most of that span. Their strict adherence to the idea that Rodgers would just carry the majority of the offensive load earned them one Ring. One SB appearance.

All I'm saying is that there could be a huge opportunity here, instead of following a now well-worn path that doesn't necessarily lead to greatness, and has a rather high percentage chance of leading to nowhere special.

At that level?

Look, I don't necessarily agree with O but thinking Veach is going to bat .800 year in and year out is probably not wise. Simple statistics suggest than some years will be better than others.

The good thing about Veach is he's not a guy that only has one way. He's shown a propensity to make moves when they need to be made while still drafting well in the meantime.

And what money are you using to pay for JuJu and Hopkins at the same time? We’re currently over the cap.