Haith national coach of year, end of story.

Next up: KC_Connection to tell us that the refs cost Okie State the game.....

If it wasn't for that home cooking, Ok State beats us by 60.

More like braindead amirite??

Sure.

Hell there wasn't hardly any foul shots was there? And can't really say the officials had any glaring mistakes. Crazy game

From 22-9 last year to currently 24-2 now.


Phils Goodman.

Did you actually watch the game or just check out the box score?

You don't need to play aggressively on defense when you are scoring on every offensive possession. Oklahoma State only turned the ball over six or seven times.

I'm gonna go ahead and assume this was "tongue in cheek".

SVP just said that Missouri plays the "beautiful game - basketball edition" on sportscenter.

I like that... Basketball Bonita

I suppose it should go to Self for being burdened with all those former 4 and 5 star guys....

If you say so...

Not in the least. Anytime a major college program gets called for only 6 personal fouls in a game, it is absolutely ****ing amazing. That just doesn't happen at the D-1 level. Show me another game this year where a top 25 team only has 6 team PFs this year.

I have been a coach of youth basketball, and if my team ended with 6 total fouls, I would've have been asking some pretty serious questions about their level of effort and aggression. Every player gets 5 fouls. If you're only playing 8 players deep, that's still 40 fouls to give in a game. You can go up to 32 fouls and still not lose a player.

6 fouls?

Wow.

Holy shit, you're serious. That's just... amazing. Did you watch the game?

Really I maybe only saw 2 or 3 calls that may have been made that weren't. But just didn't see much else that was missed

I know Braincase is a respected poster around here (for whatever that's worth), but this is just plain old stupid.

The guy puts the hurt in "butthurt".

Mizzou's "effort and aggression" was pretty damn good. Try watching the damn games instead of waiting for kenpom to tell you how to think.

Exactly... I just... I don't even...

Mizzou was only up by 30 at one point.....just think if they put forth more effort and aggression...we coulda won by 100!

Are you suggesting that MU should foul more? Is there a certain number they should get per game?

Someone tweet English, Denmon, and Dixon and tell them that they're not fouling enough!

What the **** is a "kenpom"? Sounds gay.

FYP... He's (a KU fan) suggesting that Mizzou got some serious home cookin' in order to win this game.

This game that we could easily have won by 40, if we wanted to.

They don't care.

Tonight was my first time in the student section; good time. I can't help but roll my eyes at Braincase; MU absolutely came out aggressive. They were hard into the passing lanes, diving on loose balls and challenging the hell out of the interior. Mizzou came to send a message tonight and with a 35 point lead with 5 minutes left, I'm gonna go ahead and say the message was sent.

The fouls were low overall because the refs were really letting them bang down low. Oh, that and the fact that Missouri actually has the speed to keep their feet under them and their man in front of them. Not to mention the skill to actually hit the ball, as opposed to just going out there and mauling like K-State; insanely quick hands tonight.

In closing: Braincase is a ****ing idiot.

It's a way for a desperate beaker to say, "This still says we're better than you!!!"

LMAO

When a team is shooting 35% against you (I think it was actually 34% at half), you're a lazy shithead if you don't put them on the line so they can try to find their stroke.

My recollection was that a coach will always tell a team that's struggling from the field to try to force the issue and draw fouls so they can get to the stripe and prove to themselves that there's not a lid on the hoop.

Evidently that's all wrong. OSU wasn't shooting for shit, so MU should've put them on the stripe.

I have to be honest, that has to be one of the single dumbest things I've ever seen on this board. **** me that's reeruned. Out rebound a bigger team, tie them in O-rebounds, put 5 guys in double-figures and spend the last 15% of the game with your bench emptied and your starters resting and evidently you should've tried harder.

Beakers fans are right - they're not shitheads at all; just misunderstood.

Kim English @Englishscope24
Great win for us vs #OklaSt. So pleased w/ our defense and ball movement. It's February, and you kno what's after February. Get better daily

Marcus Denmon @MizzouMonster12
Good win number 24, Bouta grab sumthn to eat,

And then...

Ricardo Ratliffe @Kismyts_Son10
I want some Red Lobster!!!

LMAO Hell yeah. I love me some Red Lobster. (not kidding)

MU beat OSU like a good team should beat a bad team at home. Don't understand what there was to argue about after that one.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth... seems to be a trend.

All I said is that it is amazing. I said nothing about officiating, I said nothing about home cookin'.

I also asked if anyone else could spot another top level program that had limited the calls against them as Mizzou has. I'll poke around a little bit later today.

If you want to make assumptions about the point I was making, feel free to so, it's your prerogative. Perception becomes reality.

I do think if you look around, you'll find a team getting 6 fouls total called against it is quite an achievement, like shooting over 60% from 3 point range, or a team averaging over 85% from the charity stripe.

Through the first half and for about the first five minutes of the second, this was the best defensive effort that Mizzou has shown all year; they played suffocating, smart, aggressive D by switching, moving their feet well, and boxing out.

It's too bad you didn't get a chance to see it.

I didn't see it. My wife and I have both been pretty busy, she's had some grant proposal deadlines and I've had some new courses to learn. Combine that with three busy kids, and an evening a home with the family is something special. Watching a Mizzou/OSU basketball game wasn't very high on the priority list for us as a family.

I'm much more interested in Lawrence High Freshman Girls versus Olathe North, or Lawrence-St. John's 5th Grade Boys versus Nativity these days as well. There's only so many hours in the week.

Don't let that stop you from checking the box score and spouting off to those of us who watched the game that this was either poor effort by Mizzou or poor officiating.

I would think that, as a coach, you would see a low foul total in a blowout win as a sign of great effort. After all, fouls tend to occur when players lazily reach instead of moving their feet to get into proper defensive position or try to block a shot after being outworked for post position or by going over the back on a rebound for which they failed to box out.

That's just me though. Maybe a scrappier team would have built more than a 35 point lead before clearing the bench with 6:00 left.

Did Alden grease some palms after the game again?

this is so true.... and the lead of the improved d is flip.... the last 2 games he has played have been his two best defensive games that i can remember.... he is now auctually moving his feet and getting in front of the player instead of letting him go by and poking around and trying to knock the ball out

Isn't that next Saturday?

Of course he did. We've got SEC money now. Why else do you think we have gone 5-0 in football and 24-2 in basketball since we announced the move (besides the SEC speed, of course)?

Cheatin' Tigers! ROFL

We're the hottest football\basketball program in the country, and we owe it all to dumping the Big XII on its ass.

Get a grip, guys... FFS, it's not like anyone thought MU wasn't going to win by 20+ after losing in Stillwater. He didn't insult anyone's mother. He didn't "spout off" any disrespect towards MU.

So sensitive...

Hey wait, you are STILL a Big 12 member right now so we'll see how next season compares to this one.

One must pay millions to dump the other on "its ass"?\

Makes sense.

Yeah. You don't pay to get dumped. We'll probably have to pay a few million to be free of the Big IIX, but it's a bargain.

Speaking of sensitive, maybe you should lock some of the trouble makers out of the Mizzou thread?

Uh, expect to be called out on if you are commenting on a game you didn't even watch. Make a dumb post anywhere on this board and you are going to get railed on.

I know, we should he used to beakers complaining about officiating by now. Even in games they weren't a part of.
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No MU fan had anything to say regarding the TRob technical incident.

...and no KU fans piled on and called them out on it.

Like I said, preception becomes reality. If that's what you took from my comment, that's up to you. I didn't throw in one of these (:rolleyes:) or one of these (:spock:).

I said it was Absolutely ****ing amazing. Interpret that any way you like.

Did I say they didn't?

I believe we've come to what they call full circle :thumb:

At least have the balls and admit that you tried - and failed miserably - to troll.

Stop being a pussy and acting like you just wanted to point out the 6 fouls, had no other ulterior motive for the post, and you just don't understand why all the Mizzou meanies jumped on you.

I am missing the beginning if this is the end.

I don't think the "Absolutely ****ing amazing" comment is what has people riled. It was probably this one:

I'll be ecstatic if Miz runs away and beats Kentucky once in a while, not sure it will happen though.

Pretty ironic comment coming from a Beaker whose AD ran a criminal organization. Have you forgotten about the Pump Brothers, the ticket scandal, lying to the Orange Bowl...hell the list goes on and on.

Clown, if you have nothing of use to add, stick to the Beaker threads.

Why would people interpret that to mean that he would seriously question their effort?

Bearcat scolding us for picking on Braincase.

Yet, complaining about a technical in the KU thread leads to butthurt Beakers.

Hypocritical by both sides.

Go smoke some more of your namesake.

I coach youth sports. Penalties and fouls are part of the game. That's why every player gets five. I've coached my daughter that I expect her to end every game with four fouls, and if she fouls out in the last minute, that's fine.

The degree of self-control, both physical and emotional, to have a team finish a game at the D1 level with only 6 fouls is, as I described it, amazing.

About as amazing as comparing youth basketball to D1 basketball

I'm glad you aren't coaching my kid.

"Players getting elbowed in the teeth is just part of the game. That's why every player gets a mouth guard. I expect every player on the court to get elbowed in the teeth."

Or

"Technical fouls are part of the game. That's why every player gets two. I expect every player on my team to pick up at least one technical every game or even a second one late in the game. Otherwise, they aren't playing with enough emotion."

None of my coaches ever preached the importance of getting 4 fouls every game. What the hell was wrong with them?
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Wow...great comeback. ROFL

It is indicative of the rest of your body of work here.

I had fun with the KU/KSU game and the ref issues... I mocked some comments here and there, and several KU fans were having fun with it during the game, but I didn't jump on anyone or ever get defensive about any of it. It might be hypocritical if other KU fans were scolding MU/KSU fans the other day, then made a comment like mine... I know you guys have a hard time figuring out that KU fans might take different actions or have different opinions though, so it's cool.

As far as this thread, it was kind of surprising to see comments like how Braincase was "spouting off" after making a pretty simple comment, and all I knew was that you would take my comment just as serious as his.

I'd do something light-hearted like ban eazy from this thread for 30 minutes for his response, but then I'd have to hear about it for 2 months as if I Sanduskied him in a fit of rage and butthurt.

High as a kite you are, and you provide nothing of value.

Remember, Bearcat, infractions are part of message boards. That's why it takes multiple infractions to get a banning. If every poster here doesn't earn a few infractions, they simply aren't good posters.

And how many does it take to get a temp ban?

Five.

F@rt

P00p

B00bs

Wein3r

There you go. 4 filter evasions.

It's all good.

That was a high level of effort and aggression.
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Good thing you're in your home thread... no need to worry about picking up a 5th.

Dixon played the best man to man D I've seen him play all season last night. He really did a good job of keeping his arms out and running his guy to the corners when able. There were a couple of times where was almost single-handedly able to stop the ball.

What I noticed was that they were keeping their feet moving a little more. To borrow a football term, they were 'chopping' their feet even when their man was stationary a lot of the time. It appeared to help keep them on their toes better than in the past and keep their man in front of them.

I'm not sure if it's just the first time I noticed it, but they had much more 'active' feet, even when they weren't actually going anywhere.

You can go into the locker room knowing you gave it your all.

If you want to infer into his comment more than he meant, more power to you.

Yeah - epic failure at trolling is pretty much what it amounts to.

The home crowd was all over you, so it's only natural that I got home cooking from the mods in the Mizzou thread.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223029

Here's a great thread about the trials and tribulations of being an assistant to the coach of peewee girls' basketball.

Maybe next time they'll use a more experienced mod; one who is used to the pressure of a big time message board.

Your words, not mine.

I coach the kids to block shots, steal the basketball, try to draw charges. In my daughter's case, she leads her team in blocked shots, but that also leads to her getting called for other fouls relating to her defensive efforts. Also, when a player is trying to get into position to try and draw a charge - a difficult call to receive in youth sports, many refs go straight to the blocking call. Attempted steals lead to reaching in. It's part of the game. Technical fouls are to be avoided, but they happen. In the CYO league, if a player plays defense in the back court prior to the 4th quarter, they can draw a T. It's unfortunate, but sometimes all it takes is an errant pass that goes right into a players hands.

If it gives you satisfaction to exagerate my comments to ludicrous levels, I'll let it slide. I've come to expect it.