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Well, he's being replaced by 2 minimum wage guys

Whit has hit the ball hard and gotten out several times over the last couple of games.

Is this the best catching staff the Royals have ever had? I cant think of a better defensively whose in ether league is better?

shit got the game winning thread and called the margin not bad rook!

Buck Martinez and Fran Healy FTW!

169 qualified batters. WAR:

166: Alcides
168: Kendrys


Weighted OBA:

166: Kendrys
169: Alcides.


On-base (Zobrist is #1)

163. Kendrys
164. Alcides



Anyway you get the idea. Two of the very worst players in MLB are in our lineup, and we are still leading the division. Crazy! Now that 2B was solved and looking like LF will be solved too, SS-DH may need some rotations

I think Esky bounces back but I Morales looks horrible. Cant have a DH that cant hit.

Trade for Will Myers damnit.
http://www.todaysknuckleball.com/knu...ing-wil-myers/

By Jon Heyman

Posted on*June 16, 2016

Wil Myers is looking a lot like the player who won the AL Rookie of the Year award in 2013, maybe even better. But sources say the San Diego Padres, intent on remaking their team, are even “open” to trading the emerging slugging star.

Rival teams have been eyeing Myers, wondering whether he might be traded with the Padres in rebuilding mode. Well, it seems San Diego is willing to talk about just about anyone.

While Myers has settled at first base after the Padres tried him in center field last year, his value as a young player with power is rising and high.

Through 65 games, he already has a career-high 14 home runs, one more than the 13 he hit in his rookie campaign. He has a career-high eight stolen bases and is hitting .281 with an .825 OPS.

Myers was acquired by the Padres in one of general manager A.J. Preller’s big early splashes. Just a little over three months into the job, Preller traded Joe Ross and Trea Turner to the Nationals and Jake Bauers, Rene Rivera and Burch Smith to the Tampa Bay Rays for Myers. Myers, a year removed from winning AL ROY, hit just .222 before becoming a Padre and .253 in his first season in San Diego.

He was one of baseball’s top prospects when the Kansas City Royals traded him to the Rays in the deal that brought Wade Davis and James Shields to Kansas City. Jake Odorizzi was also part of that deal to the Rays.

The Padres are 27-40 and in last place in the NL West 14.0 games behind the San Francisco Giants in the division entering Thursday.

Id love to have him as DH... I don't know how good he would be in RF.

He plays 1B now

Can he play DH?

It was time to end the Omar era. Thanks for the memories -

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Bitch will come up with some obscure, convoluted stat showing how Myers is actually a far better first baseman than Hosmer is.

You can stomach having an all glove, no-bat SS if he plays great D and hits at the bottom of your order.

Hitting that guy 2nd is foolhardy this late in the season.

Morales is paid to do one thing: Hit. And he can't hit anymore, apparently. The time for him to go is quickly approaching. Or at least to become a platoon bat who only plays vs lefties.

Re: Myers

He's having a great year and has three additional years of control remaining after this one (arbitration), so he should cost a lot.

He'd be an intriguing fit in KC, but I don't see a way KC can get that deal done unless Ventura is headed to San Diego as part of it.


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Since Verlander is pitching tonight:

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Just gonna bump this

Myers is rated as the best 1B in baseball defensively right now.

Does that say more about Myers/Hosmer or how the ratings are measured?

Hosmer isn't very good at grounders and doesn't have a good 1st step. But he's excellent at the scoop...which I imagine is not properly accounted for in advanced metrics and defensive WAR.

He seems like he's slipping a bit this year. I wonder if his "Ole!" style is something that will deteriorate quickly as he gets older and his reflexes slow a bit. He may need to learn a more sound technique at some point.

He made a pretty basic goof last night not catching Colon's throw. It was a bit high and a bit close range, but it hit off the end of his glove and Hos didn't even have to stretch.



He's been making a lot of poor plays past month. Threw into the dugout in Cleve as Volq covered first, missing scoops. Even dropped a ball from Cuthbert in Chi that was low but shin high.

Welp....Alex Cora tweeted this..

@ac13alex: Baseball Insider for 1 day;

Sources: Royals 👀 José Reyes to play 2B.

Ok, back to be the ex-player who will be covering the @NCAACWS.

Thats interesting.. Merrifield to 3rd? Can he play RF?

Merrifield is our poor man's Zobrist. I don't think there is anywhere he can't play in the field. Maybe not center, but you get the point.

True. Could platoonn with matchups i guess. Not sure what Reyes splits are.

Better than he was in CF.

There is no way we would pick up Reyes, nor should we. Way too many distractions with him for our team.

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that drop in RF for Fuentes last night might be his Dusty Coleman deathblow.

Could prob get Myers for free by taking on Kemps 60M left, although the Dodgers are eating some of that. Kemp needs to be in the AL anyway


That wouldn't really help us tho unless Myers can play RF and his defensive stats say he sucks out there.


Morales is done. No harm there, he's almost 33 (surely more like 35). You could just play Eibner or Orlando there sprinkled with Sal

Blecch. Not worth the headache.


Myers doesn't have ideal range for RF, and he had trouble staying healthy out there, but the bat may be good enough to carry him.

He was deemed OK at 3B in a small sample... May be someone who KC could fit by moving around a bit and subbing for him defensively late when he's in RF.

2017 he could DH most of the time, but also potentially give them some time at 1B, RF, and 3B.

Figuring out what to do with him defensively would be a problem I would be willing to deal with.



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@JonHeyman: In regard to reyes/royals rumor, I hear kc is planning to go with merrifield and colon at 2B

Pretty cool move. Nice to see Yordano in the news for something that isn't initiating bench-clearing brawls for once.

http://fox4kc.com/2016/06/15/yordano...emonade-stand/

would of been great if he pissed in their lemonade, to further damage his reputation, "THIS GUYS A MONSTER!"

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So when Gordon comes back does Morales get the boot? Id hate to keep him over Orlando or Eibner right now.

I think it's possible. They had to keep him around long enough for his bobble head night and he still hasn't pulled it together. Keeps that DH spot open to rest guys for the rest of the season like they said they wanted to do after Billy left.

They are going to have a REALLY tough decision to make at that point. Eibner has been playing great since his call up. He has speed, power, makes consistent contact, and is a slightly above average fielder who can play all 3 OF spots. Orlando has been steady all year. He's been getting on base, has great speed and is an adequate RF'r. His biggest drawback is his lack of power. Dyson, Colon and Butera are all safe.

My guess is, unfortunately, that Eibner will most likely get the boot back to Omaha and Morales will live to see another day with the Royals. I respect the Royals for eating the Infante contract. I just don't see them eating Morales's as well. You're probably more inclined to give more rope to a switch hitter with power. I really thought (hoped) KenMo was getting ready to turn a corner after playing well the last 1/3 of May into the beginning of June, but his last 7+ games he's been a ****ing slug again. He looks out of shape and like a lost puppy at the plate. If they were absolutely sold on Eibner and his health, I'm guessing the Royals might take that chance. I'm just betting they stick with Morales.

I honestly think Morales will get the boot. You are technically eating that contract if he isn't playing, but if you cut him and replace him internally, it is not costing you anything extra to cut him, as opposed to if they cut him and traded for a replacement.

I believe they were waiting for someone to step up and take the 2B position before cutting Infante and they will probably do the same for the DH spot. I think it will really just be waiting for Gordon to come back, show he is healthy, and then Morales will be gone unless he makes a huge turn around.

It just makes too much sense to use that DH spot for a combination of Gordon, Eibner, and Perez.

I really, really, really hope you're wrong about that. I'm a big fan of Kendrys Morales and I wish him the best, but if the Royals want to actually win games, they need to keep Brett Eibner on the major league roster and dump Kendrys Morales.

Me too. I hope he figures it out and gets with another team either this year or next. His HR in the ALDS is one of my favorite moments of last years playoff run.

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Cody Reed making his MLB debut tomorrow.

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I hope I'm wrong as well. If KenMo keeps slogging along at the same pace until AG gets back, and Eibner keeps being productive, it'll be very difficult to keep him on the Team.

Dyson is a 31 year old fourth outfielder. Since the Royals have many young outfielders, it seems he would be the easiest to replace. I'd see what I could get for him on the trade market. That will buy some time before having to make a decision on Morales.

His speed and defense are too valuable given the way this team is constructed IMO. I think they'd send Paulo down before losing Dyson.

Oswaldo Arcia DFA'd by Twins..only 25 has power. Could Royals take a shot and make a claim?

@PhilMackey: Meanwhile, the Twins just DFA'd Oswaldo Arcia, who will hit 25-30 HRs for the next team he plays for sometime within the next two years.

Why did they dfa him?

Lol, no ****ing way

LOL at the catcher votes.

No idea...Twins reporters seem baffled. Don't think anything bad

It hit me last night: if she left Verlander to marry Justin Upton, her name would still be Kate Upton

Unless she hyphenated, then it would be Kate Upton-Upton.

Sounds like one of Donger's relatives.

I'd be all over submitting a claim for Arcia. It's weird to me the Twins weren't as patient with him as they have been with their other prospects.

Could end up being a David Ortiz-type disaster for them, long-term.

I think there's a decent chance he's a better pro than Sano, long-term.


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WI am kicking myself for not thinking of that first. :clap:



FG had a column on the death of the hitting 1B. Used to be the strongest bat in your lineup, but now? The OPS is 769, the same as 3B (772) and even 2B (761).



Good news is, doesn't impact KC. Hosmer is 4th, tied in wRC+ with guys like Cabrera and Goldschmidt.

Best sporting event I've ever seen live.

I'd like to give Morales another month at least to get it together. He was so huge for us last year. It's hard for me to see us making a big run without the power of Morales or Moose. He was hitting it hard earlier in the year and just kept hitting it at people. He's started pressing since then and can't seem to shake out of it.

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Could be the Twins are seeing who is interested.


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Does anyone think trying to put together a package for Jay Bruce and Zack Cozart might be worthwhile?

How many days till we find out that the Royals put a claim in...I'd like to think they'd be on this

I think SP has to be the top priority.

Why would you move a guy like Ventura to the pen? I guess it's better than some of the trade suggestions made by Royals Fan, but it doesn't make much more sense, especially in the long run.

So you don't move him and you don't trade him, even though he likely doesn't have it as a starting pitcher?

So your plan is to just continue to start him? Sounds like a great plan.

Duncan, who knows his ****, posted the following:

Personally, I don't think either of those sounds better than continuing to work with Ace as a starter. His ability is off the charts.

I know a lot of people had concerns about Ventura staying healthy given his size and velocity but he was one of the most effortless deliveries Ive seen.

Ability? Ability as a starting pitcher is determined about how you can change your style, locate pitches and confuse hitters, not just on what shows up on the radar gun.

He lacks a consistent secondary pitch, has fluctuated his velocity to become less effective, and has a $.10 brain.

At some point after a lot of work, it still might not happen. And no, you can't looks at the past 2 starts in this argument. If he doesn't figure it out through the entire second half, you have to think about alternatives.

So, you criticize him yet are unhappy that he's not traded for a bounty?

Wha?

I disagree, unless he keeps headhunting, I think he deserves until the end of 2017 to figure it out.

The dude was flat out fantastic in 2014 and in the entire second half of 2015. Plus he's put together some balla-*** starts in the 2014-2015 postseasons.

What?

I was originally just responding to Pitt Gorilla who said he didn't like the option of moving him to the pen or trading him. Which leaves you continuing to trot him out as a starting pitcher when he's been not great (outside of past few starts). At some point you cut your loses and move him to the pen or trade him for something. Trotting out a bad starting pitcher does nothing for anyone.

Very generous tonight, Lewdog.

Not sure what your leash length is but if he has a disastrous second half, I don't see trotting him out there all 2017. I think we will learn the fate of Ventura through the rest of this season. He's looked good past two starts, which is good.

For sure, I'm talking about if he keeps his 2014-2015 numbers. He's pitched at around a 4.30 ERA since 2014, since 1985, we've never had a host of available pitchers who can best that.

Now if he completely regresses to 2015 Jeremy Guthrie numbers, then it's time to entertain a move to the pen.

The money move is to allow him to settle down, put in quality starts, then possibly move him.

Moving him at his lowest point is folly.

I agree. I just think the leash length on that needs to be a bit shorter than what others are suggesting. And at what point does him pitching well mean you keep him, or trade him while he looks good? It's a tough call.

Well, he can't be traded before the AS break. The return would be minimal.

Closer to the deadline would be best, IMO.

Agreed.

Easily your best take of the night.

I have to go to bed now before you anger me further and I can't sleep tonight because of your posting in the other thread.

Oh, don't be coy, Lew, I'll always haunt your dreams.

Be careful.

:D