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MeatRock 05-09-2013 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9671425)
And here we go.
He can't help it. It's his Diva personality.

teedubya 05-09-2013 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9671429)
If we are bumping Gordon out of the leadoff spot, he must be used to protect Billy, IMO.

Putting Butler/Gordon/Cain makes it much more difficult to pitch around either of our key bats. However, Esky in the leadoff spot is not a good call. He doesn't see enough pitches and only gets on base via hits.
Putting Butler BEFORE Gordon is ****ing stupid. Butler is slow as hell and will clog the bases and we won't score nearly as many runs.

teedubya 05-09-2013 04:47 PM
So, is tonight game #4 of this season's inevitable 12 game losing streak / death march?

stonedstooge 05-09-2013 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671421)
I took an awful large amount of shit for this lineup and now suddenly everyone is on board...

I see.
Ah, we have had this argument last year. Don't think you were the first to suggest it

Nightfyre 05-09-2013 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9671438)
Putting Butler BEFORE Gordon is ****ing stupid. Butler is slow as hell and will clog the bases and we won't score nearly as many runs.
You would rather the opposing pitcher not even have to worry about facing Butler? :shake:

stonedstooge 05-09-2013 04:52 PM
I was hoping Ned would DH for Frenchy and let the pitchers bat

MeatRock 05-09-2013 04:53 PM
I care more about moving Cain, arguably our hottest hitter right now, to the 2 spot than moving Gordon to the 3rd spot. I like maximizing Cain's AB's.

alnorth 05-09-2013 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671421)
I took an awful large amount of shit for this lineup and now suddenly everyone is on board...

I see.
Your reasoning (driving in runs) is still wrong.

If the new lineup means Cain gets more AB, its an improvement.

MeatRock 05-09-2013 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9671451)
Your reasoning (driving in runs) is still wrong.

If the new lineup means Cain gets more AB, its an improvement.
^ This :thumb:

Deberg_1990 05-09-2013 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9671293)
Hosmer IMO just needs time. He is only 23. Pro players don't hit their prime until 27. Gordon is a classic example of this. Just let him keeping hitting and it will eventually click.
Hochevar just needs more time. We have identified a flaw in his delivery.

stonedstooge 05-09-2013 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9671454)
Hochevar just needs more time. We have identified a flaw in his delivery.
COOL. You notice it on tape again Ned?

Mama Hip Rockets 05-09-2013 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671421)
I took an awful large amount of shit for this lineup and now suddenly everyone is on board...

I see.
I gave you no shit.

Hootie 05-09-2013 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9671451)
Your reasoning (driving in runs) is still wrong.

If the new lineup means Cain gets more AB, its an improvement.
Disagree. The object of the game is to score runs. You load your lineup so that the guys who get on base hit in front of the guys with the highest .OPS

Your highest .OPS guys need to be at 3 and 4

Deberg_1990 05-09-2013 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671421)
I took an awful large amount of shit for this lineup and now suddenly everyone is on board...

I see.
No shits were given by me.

alnorth 05-09-2013 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671494)
Disagree. The object of the game is to score runs. You load your lineup so that the guys who get on base hit in front of the guys with the highest .OPS

Your highest .OPS guys need to be at 3 and 4
Having more AB >>>> the very small benefit of having Cain and Escobar in front of him. Gordon won at least one game, precisely because he was at the top of the order and got the extra AB, and last night he would have been up as the potential game-winner with a man on base without the double play.

I'll sacrifice a few Gordon AB to get Cain up there more, if thats the furthest Yost is willing to go.


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