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Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9486347)
My $.02.. there is a REASON mechanics are generally seen as scumbag ripoff artists. That stereotype didn't just appear out of thin air. Defending something as common practice in that industry is not a glowing endorsement.

Oh and I have a funny "Mexican" story to add for Hootie's benefit...

I called a tiny little tire place that was down the street and asked if they could fix a wheel that had a bent rim that was causing the tire to leak. The guy on the phone barely spoke english but I gathered that he was saying yes, just to swing by. So I told him what car I was driving ('66 Impala) and to expect me in a few minutes. Now here if the funny part... I pulled up and stopped the car in front of the what appeared to be the head guy outside. He motioned to some other dudes and BY THE TIME I STEPPED OUT of my car they had the wheel off. I shit you not. I closed the door and walked up to the guy and they had the tire off and were banging away at the wheel. A total of 5 minutes later and my wheel was fixed and back on my car and I asked the guy how much I owed him and he said... twelve. I gave him a $20 and drove away happy as a clam. Fantastic experience. Have sent them a ton of business since. Still cracks me up that the ****ers jacked my car up and took the wheel off before I was even out of the car!

I can't find the inverse of that, but a link came across my facebook the other day about a mobile mechanic from seattle I think, and doing unmentionable things to this guys' truck all to fix a heatercore, and it included pictures. I wish I had the link to show here.

SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:18 PM

One of us is a liar, and it's not me.

You closed a busy shop where you had to work 6.5 days a week and charged 10 to 20 percent OVER the book time and went to a dealership to work and made more money?

Lying somewhere you are
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Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486360)
Hell there goes another assumption. I didn't start from the ground up. The business was just magically there.
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You are the king of assumptions dude, you started it by assuming I failed, and just went all willy nilly tossing out assumptions left and right, yet I am not allowed to even toss one out?

I'm betting that you didn't start your own business, that someone else had that location before you and you bought them out, or took it over, or worked your way up the chain to own it.

You don't seem smart enough to be able to work up a business plan, let alone get the ball rolling on actually opening a business.

Then again you work in the sticks, so maybe you don't need to be a smart businessman to be successful out there, but out here, you do. Come open up a shop and KC and see how long you last Sauto, you'd be surprised how fast the door gets shut on you with your business approach.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486364)
And see I have a ton of certs from GM. I used to be a lead tech at a very high profile dealership in kc. But you assumed I don't have them
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You keep saying this, but you never prove it.

But then, you tell me to prove mine, after I've asked you, with the conclusion being that you'd answer mine finally.

Life doesn't work that way, and you're a fraud in my eyes. Deal with it, swallow it, move on.

At the end of the day, I've got more education, more certifications, more credentials than you do, and I've started more successful businesses, made more money, and currently have a higher paying job than you.

Yet you tell me I'm a business failure.

How does that even compute? Are you even making these claims with a straight face?

Its okay to admit when you're trolling Sauto.

Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486371)
One of us is a liar, and it's not me.

You closed a busy shop where you had to work 6.5 days a week and charged 10 to 20 percent OVER the book time and went to a dealership to work and made more money?

Lying somewhere you are
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I didn't charge 10% OVER book, I increased Book 10%, there is a difference.

So far, I've been pretty transparent, so obviously I'm not the liar, shadetree.

SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:28 PM

Lol so I need to put all my private info out there for you?

Lmao. Buddy.

You are the troll here. Not me.

There have been multiple people from here that have been to my shop. Hell I can't even remember one poster's screen name but I know his real name. One has even vouched for me.

I'm not lying. You have hidden behind that keyboard and asked me to give you personal stuff. No one would do that.

If I didn't have a family I would have no issues with giving you everything. But I don't trust liars. I have more to worry about in this life than just myself.


You can **** off on that front.
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SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9486383)
I didn't charge 10% OVER book, I increased Book 10%, there is a difference.

So far, I've been pretty transparent, so obviously I'm not the liar, shadetree.

10 percent over book would be increasing book time 10 percent. To anyone with any common sense at least
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chiefforlife 03-11-2013 05:31 PM

Look I have talked with Jason enough to know he is a very good guy. We need those in this business and I think most people would be surprised at how many GOOD guys there are in this business.

Exoter isnt a bad guy I think he divulged to much info for the average consumer and is getting a bad rap because of it.

If you call one shop who's labor rate is 80.00 an hour and you call another shop who's labor rate is 95.00 an hour but they both quote you 1200.00 for the job, whats the difference?

People do shop labor rates and that is what drives some shops to keep the labor rate low and pad the hours.

A shop has to make money to survive, dont hate them for it.

Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486401)
Lol so I need to put all my private info out there for you?

Lmao. Buddy.

You are the troll here. Not me.

There have been multiple people from here that have been to my shop. Hell I can't even remember one poster's screen name but I know his real name. One has even vouched for me.

I'm not lying. You have hidden behind that keyboard and asked me to give you personal stuff. No one would do that.

If I didn't have a family I would have no issues with giving you everything. But I don't trust liars. I have more to worry about in this life than just myself.


You can **** off on that front.
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You act like I asked you for your credit card, I asked you WHO you worked for, AFTER you made big claims that you were the lead tech at one of the busiest GM dealerships in KC. That isn't really personal info.

All you've done is attack me, so sorry for asking you to back up your talk when I find that it doesn't coincide with reason, to someone who's actually done what you claim.

I would have laughed hard had you "named" a certain dealership that I'm thinking about right now, because I'd get to the bottom of it within minutes since I know the service manager and owners personally.

Here's to hoping the next time we argue, you name the dealership so I can shoot you down lol.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486408)
10 percent over book would be increasing book time 10 percent. To anyone with any common sense at least
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10 percent OVER book is not the same thing as increasing the book time by 10 percentage.

There's a very big difference between the two.

Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9486412)
Look I have talked with Jason enough to know he is a very good guy. We need those in this business and I think most people would be surprised at how many GOOD guys there are in this business.

Exoter isnt a bad guy I think he divulged to much info for the average consumer and is getting a bad rap because of it.

If you call one shop who's labor rate is 80.00 an hour and you call another shop who's labor rate is 95.00 an hour but they both quote you 1200.00 for the job, whats the difference?

People do shop labor rates and that is what drives some shops to keep the labor rate low and pad the hours.

A shop has to make money to survive, dont hate them for it.

Its all apples and oranges to everyone, all I'm trying to do here is educate the masses, Jason's just trying to talk shit. Its all he does. Perhaps he's trying to conceal his own practices, who knows.

SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:42 PM

10 percent over book time would be increasing the time by 10 percent. I can't see where a debate would be there.
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seclark 03-11-2013 05:43 PM

so, did hootie ever get his ****in mirror fixed, or what? and what did he pay?
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seclark 03-11-2013 05:44 PM

if i have to, i'll kick the one who sucks the penis off again.
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SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9486446)
Its all apples and oranges to everyone, all I'm trying to do here is educate the masses, Jason's just trying to talk shit. Its all he does. Perhaps he's trying to conceal his own practices, who knows.

What practices would those be?

You claimed a certain labor rate. It was low so if a customer called rate shopping they would come to you. THEN you inflate book time to make up for it.


Me? I give them a labor rate and then stick to book time, when I use the book most jobs I can quote while talking to a customer.

Which is the honest way?
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SAUTO 03-11-2013 05:47 PM

And the dealers I do business with trust me to fix anything that is safety related. No call required.


That's trust
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Exoter175 03-11-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486455)
10 percent over book time would be increasing the time by 10 percent. I can't see where a debate would be there.
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Except for I'm not charging 10 percent over book, which is what you don't understand.

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Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9486458)
so, did hootie ever get his ****in mirror fixed, or what? and what did he pay?
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He got stabbed by a Mexican, had his wallet and car stolen, and we haven't heard from him.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486463)
What practices would those be?

You claimed a certain labor rate. It was low so if a customer called rate shopping they would come to you. THEN you inflate book time to make up for it.


Me? I give them a labor rate and then stick to book time, when I use the book most jobs I can quote while talking to a customer.

Which is the honest way?
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No, I wouldn't. Jesus you are ****ing stupid.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9486471)
And the dealers I do business with trust me to fix anything that is safety related. No call required.


That's trust
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And so did mine, your point?


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