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Sounds like Matt Flynn heading to Oakland via trade, and Carson Palmer Out (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271585)

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9542076)

I agree with him. I would much rather have signed a crap vet and drafted Geno rather than getting ve up entirely too much for a completely lackluster QB and possibly ruin our chances of drafting Geno.

From another thread -

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9541988)

I can't guarantee any info to be honest. Most of it has been great, but there's going to be a time that they just don't want anything out there and he will just give me what the company line is.

The guy did tell me that it's not a smoke screen that they like the skillset and that they don't feel Geno is NFL ready off the bat, but they love his long term outlook.

He said the reason Reid wanted Alex is because they felt this roster was ready to win day 1 and that he wanted to give veterans on the squad (Hali, DJ, Charles) a fighting chance for success. He said they didn't feel Geno could come in this year and win with this team that he's just not ready. The morale of the team was terrible at the end of last year and they didn't want another pathetic season because they are trying to break this losing culture. That Alex Smith had a lot to do with trying to right the ship immediately.

Now all of this just could be team speak and they really just want to drive up the value, but it's what I was told. Believe it, don't believe it, it's all the same to me.

Like I said over there, it's the most common sensical take on trying to piece together why they would bring in an Alex Smith AND draft Geno. Makes perfect sense, really.

I don't understand the desire to have someone unproven or a career backup as the vet QB. Alex Smith is the best QB we could have acquired. The only reason to have a career backup is they would be easier for a rookie to supplant, but that's a bad reason to have a lesser QB start for a year or so.

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9538837)

No chance this years is a 3rd rounder. 4 or 5. They aren't going to leave themselves one pick in the first 3 rounds.

Dude, it's the RAIDERS

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539099)

I disagree with your entire list.

There's only one guy today that I'd bench Kaepernick for and that's Cam Newton.

WTF?

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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9539241)

Mr. McCloud,
Do we really know much about Kaepernak? Is it possible his success was due to the fact no one had film on him? Did it almost seem like teams were figuring him out -- especially in the Super Bowl?

FAX!

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9539364)

IMO

the 49ers and Seahawks are the best two teams in the NFL, and by a pretty good margin

amazing how the NFC West transitioned so quickly

QBs

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9540257)

That Steven Jackson decided to Gonzalez the Rams this offseason fills me with melancholy.

Steven Jackson HAS to be the most overrated RB of all time.

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 9542553)

WTF?

Do you actually have something to say?

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9541035)

great

I just love that argument.

"Matt Ryan blows because he loses in the playoffs."

JFC

for the record, his playoff losses have come to Arizona (should have won the Super Bowl), Packers (won the Super Bowl), Giants (won the Super Bowl) and the 49ers (probably should have won the Super Bowl)...

so yeah, he is 1-4 and lost while holding the #1 seed twice against the Packers (who no one was going to beat) and the 49ers (where he played a pretty good game)...

but the idea that Matt Ryan isn't, at the very least, a very good and capable QB is ****ing nonsense. He's 5 years into his career and he has shown great consistency and at least passes the god damn eye test.

I can't wait for someone to tell me they'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan because Flacco has postseason success.

This board makes me want to gauge my eyes out sometimes.

I'd take Ryan over Flacco

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 9542817)

I'd take Ryan over Flacco

You'll take a guy that's won exactly ONE playoff game, with superior offensive talent, in the past 5 years, over a guy that just won the Super Bowl and lit it up for 6 straight weeks (not to mention five straight years of playoff wins)?

What the **** are you smokin'?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9542811)

Do you actually have something to say?

Actually yes sir I do, I have never bashed you or said anything malicious towards you (that I can recall LOL) I just don't understand that argument. I mean if your argument is based on building a franchise around those QB's at their PRESENT age then that's one thing, but c'mon man you're trying to tell me you would rather have Cam Newton than Tom Brady? Or Peyton Manning? RIGHT NOW??

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9542823)

Hey, you'll take Cam Newton...what ARE YOU smoking???

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9542823)

Matt Ryan has been the more consistent regular season QB.

But, yeah, I'm taking the guy that has shown he can get it done in the playoffs.

Two years ago, my answer would have been different.

Oakland passes on Eugene too huh. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 9542835)

Hey, you'll take Cam Newton...what ARE YOU smoking???

I'm smokin' the mother****er that can put up 4,000 yards in the air and 31 TD's per year with a broke dick 33 year old receiver as his main weapon.

What you got?