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keg in kc 03-21-2020 08:45 AM

So I'm guessing everyone noticed this, but odds seem high that we'll get Picard's consciousness uploaded into an android body at season's end.

crayzkirk 03-21-2020 09:40 AM

Part of me is sad that this is a disappointment. I enjoyed the first JarJar Abrams Star Trek movie mainly for the interaction of the main characters. They at least tried to give a memory of the banter between the main characters. The second one was a slap in the face and the third has been forgotten.

Haven't watched Discovery or Picard. Didn't make it thru the first season of DS9. Got bored with the year long arcs of Enterprise. Voyager... I can't remember anything about it other than how tight Teri Ryan's uniform got.

I'm an old guy; I guess I just miss the optimism of the original show. There's so much negativity in the media, why do we need to put it into our entertainment?

Hammock Parties 03-21-2020 10:08 AM

This isn't a disappointment but your post is.

keg in kc 03-21-2020 12:25 PM

If you haven't watched it, then how is it a disappointment?

crayzkirk 03-21-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14857244)
If you haven't watched it, then how is it a disappointment?

Based on what others have said here, it doesn't sounds all that interesting to me. Various reviews have noted things such as every woman is a bad ass and every man is incompetent. That seems to be the current trend lately in our entertainment.

Star Wars anyone?

I suppose I'm just disappointed right now. Hoping to retire in a few years, that's kaput. Went to the store to get some food and people are hoarding. I guess situations like this just bring out the worst in people. Screw your neighbor.

Humans aren't rational animals, they are rationalizing animals...

listopencil 03-21-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14856853)
So I'm guessing everyone noticed this, but odds seem high that we'll get Picard's consciousness uploaded into an android body at season's end.


I think that depends on how many seasons they have. An android body for Picard since his own is dying would be reasonable. Seems like that's more of an end game for a series like this though. I guess they could do it as the cliff hanger. Have him die in the upcoming battle, everybody does the 'I'm so sad that Picard is dead' reaction speech. Last shot is an obviously Picard android in the creche.

keg in kc 03-21-2020 05:46 PM

My guess is they showed that empty android shell for a reason, and there's been so much focus on Picard's deteriorating health. I don't know why they'd show that in the episode, and then wait two seasons (2nd is already greenlit, and 3rd is planned) to pay it off.

keg in kc 03-21-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14857609)
Based on what others have said here, it doesn't sounds all that interesting to me. Various reviews have noted things such as every woman is a bad ass and every man is incompetent. That seems to be the current trend lately in our entertainment.

Jesus ****ing Christ all us white males need to get over this ****ing victim complex. We were the apex in Hollywood for its entire existence, and now there's a couple of years where the pendulum spins the other way, where it's actually balanced a little more towards what genders and colors in the real world look like and it's "woe is me! It's so unfair!"

listopencil 03-21-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14857816)
My guess is they showed that empty android shell for a reason, and there's been so much focus on Picard's deteriorating health. I don't know why they'd show that in the episode, and then wait two seasons (2nd is already greenlit, and 3rd is planned) to pay it off.




OK. Then I'd expect it to be more of a multi season arc. If this show had been tight with quick storylines then I'd expect them to roll that out sooner, but this last episode makes it look like if one of them wants to walk a dog it'll be a three episode special event.

listopencil 03-21-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14857821)
Jesus ****ing Christ all us white males need to get over this ****ing victim complex. We were the apex in Hollywood for its entire existence, and now there's a couple of years where the pendulum spins the other way, where it's actually balanced a little more towards what genders and colors in the real world look like and it's "woe is me! It's so unfair!"




ST: DISC was a disappointment for many reasons. The Michael Burnham character was ridiculous. Just a horrible Mary Sue and the first season was bad fan fic. The way the 'new' Klingons were handled was incredibly stupid. The only decent character out out of the entire season was, of course, deemed to be 'evil.' It was garbage. The second season redeemed the series somewhat but they only did it by abandoning their nonsense and bullshit, and injecting some old school Trek with Pike and crew.



Woke Trek isn't laughable, stupid garbage simply because gender/ethnicity/sex are emphasized. Woke Trek is garbage because they are used in place of plot, theme, and character development.

crayzkirk 03-21-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14857821)
Jesus ****ing Christ all us white males need to get over this ****ing victim complex. We were the apex in Hollywood for its entire existence, and now there's a couple of years where the pendulum spins the other way, where it's actually balanced a little more towards what genders and colors in the real world look like and it's "woe is me! It's so unfair!"

Not claiming men are victims. Star Trek has managed to show lots of women in powerful positions without having to resort to making the men look weak. Star Wars did the same. What about having strong characters without having to place emphasis on their gender or color?

Doctor Who anyone?

Bowser 03-22-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14857816)
My guess is they showed that empty android shell for a reason, and there's been so much focus on Picard's deteriorating health. I don't know why they'd show that in the episode, and then wait two seasons (2nd is already greenlit, and 3rd is planned) to pay it off.

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lawrenceRaider 03-22-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14854871)
Saw some Trekkies whining we haven't seen a single starfleet ship.

I'm gonna guess that ends pretty quick in the finale judging by the state of things.

I've particularly enjoyed seeing something outside of the traditional.

Admittedly, I'm enjoying this largely on nostalgia with the TNG crew, but it's really been an above average show for the most part. Oh, and 7 of 9 is as hot, or hotter than ever. Great genetics there.

I don't have high hopes for a great finish.

Hammock Parties 03-22-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14857609)
Based on what others have said here, it doesn't sounds all that interesting to me. Various reviews have noted things such as every woman is a bad ass and every man is incompetent. That seems to be the current trend lately in our entertainment.

Pretty much no one in this thread has said that about Picard, and nor is it true of the show.

KC_Connection 03-22-2020 01:18 PM

Yeah Picard may not be a particularly good show so far but that has nothing to do with gender dynamics or the amount of strong female/male characters. If that's a thing, I have no idea where that discourse is coming from.


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