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htismaqe 10-23-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042034)
Thanks... the good news is the footwork has improved quite a bit.

However, there is alot of bad in that tape. First, he really only makes one read 90% of the time. He is really bad at staring WRs down and locking onto them. There really isn't much decision making going on. Their offense is a strict timing offense and when that timing gets disrupted it's pretty much a busted play. When that happens, he just chucks it down the field most of the time with the occassional successful check down. Pro defensive backs are going to eat him alive if he keeps doing that. He makes some terrible decisions. Even when he does have time when the blitz is coming he gets happy feet and is more inaccurate than usual. He can't sell a play action pass for his life. He looks like your average high school QB in that area which is not a good sign because he runs alot of them. The play on the field is worse than I thought and his pocket presence is pretty questionable imo. If he's the best this is a terrible year for QBs. In all honesty, he reminds me of Cassel.

Just my ten cents.

Who you gonna take then?

suds79 10-23-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042201)
Who you gonna take then?

Exactly.

It's not like it's either Geno or Luck. It's Geno or weak armed Matt Barkley. Geno or Tyler Wilson.

The Chiefs have to end up with one of those 3. So, take your pick.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042156)
He did not look poised the last two weeks.

I hate to use THE excuse, but the rest of that team, outside a couple of WRs, is AWFUL.

I watched one of the game film shows on Thursday or Friday and they broke down how to combat Geno Smith.

The big secret - rush FOUR instead of THREE. Yeah, exactly.

Baylor rushed 3 and dropped 8. He killed them. Texas Tech rushed 4 and the o-line couldn't handle it.

Any team that runs a base 4-3 is going to destroy them. So don't expect him to bounce back against OU.

ChiTown 10-23-2012 09:22 AM

My Geno boner is at half mast. It needs cheering up.......

keg in kc 10-23-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042207)
I hate to use THE excuse, but the rest of that team, outside a couple of WRs, is AWFUL.

I watched one of the game film shows on Thursday or Friday and they broke down how to combat Geno Smith.

The big secret - rush FOUR instead of THREE. Yeah, exactly.

Baylor rushed 3 and dropped 8. He killed them. Texas Tech rushed 4 and the o-line couldn't handle it.

Any team that runs a base 4-3 is going to destroy them. So don't expect him to bounce back against OU.

I said it in the middle of the game thread, during halftime: WVU's biggest problem coming into 2012 on offense was how their line would hold up against Big 12 linemen.

They have their answer now...

I think the main thing that can be taken from all of this is just how awful Texas is on defense.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042201)
Who you gonna take then?

I hope I'm taking one of the three. I hope one of them will be there. I wouldn't trade up for any of them. I like Wilson the best right now. All I know is that there are alot of excuses for Geno right now and there were alot of excuses over the years for Cassel too. Everyone has a bad game or two but, I am tired of excuses. Nobody is making excuses for Wilson or Barkley. Geno has some ledgit flaws and he is no where near Andrew Luck or RGIII. I like the guy and think he has potential but, you gotta be crazy if you think he will be our savior or something after watching the tape.

notorious 10-23-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9042210)
My Geno boner is at half mast. It needs cheering up.......

It will get cheered up against TCU and OSU.

Chiefnj2 10-23-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042201)
Who you gonna take then?

IMO, it'll be a 3 man race - Wilson, Barkley and Smith. The networks will love it because there won't be a consensus.

The big question I have right now is what can Smith do under pressure? Over the next few weeks can he show that he can move around the pocket and still find open receivers? Can he go through reads? Can he make chicken salad out of chicken shit?

notorious 10-23-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9042235)
how their line would hold up against Big 12 .

Man, they are really bad.


We are talking Chiefs 2007-2008 bad.

Brock 10-23-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042250)
The big question I have right now is what can Smith do under pressure? Over the next few weeks can he show that he can move around the pocket and still find open receivers? Can he go through reads? Can he make chicken salad out of chicken shit?

It doesn't seem like it.

RealSNR 10-23-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042156)
He did not look poised the last two weeks.

I'd like to see Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or ANY QB make plays when your OL sucks and the defense has the PERFECT solution to your wide-open offensive playbook.

Those QBs surely wouldn't challenge the deep safeties- that would result in lots of bad throws and INTs. If they throw underneath, the offense is designed to get the underneath guys room to run. TT nor KSU gave them that, so Geno was stuck doing this dink and dunk shit for ineffective gains.

The only way to solve that is to beast out in the running game. And their OL was incapable of creating holes. Buie isn't terrible, but he's not an elite back.

RGIII could have rolled with this team because he has the ability to scramble and force teams to always account for his running ability. Geno doesn't have that. He's got good mobility in the pocket and can/will scramble effectively when he has to, but he's a pocket QB.

He was pretty ****ing poised considering the shit sandwich he had served to him by his shitty coach.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042250)
IMO, it'll be a 3 man race - Wilson, Barkley and Smith. The networks will love it because there won't be a consensus.

The big question I have right now is what can Smith do under pressure? Over the next few weeks can he show that he can move around the pocket and still find open receivers? Can he go through reads? Can he make chicken salad out of chicken shit?

I don't want any part of Barkley. At all.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 09:42 AM

People laugh but, I am telling you guys, we need the best leader of the three. Talent wise, none of them are all that imo. In a good year for QBs, I think all of them go at the end of the first to the early second.

We need the guy that comes back and wins games, carries the team for short periods, converts third downs, makes the plays that have to be made, and is a clear cut field general who is in absolute command of the offense.

That's what we need to be looking for because the rest of their traits aren't that different.

BossChief 10-23-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042250)
IMO, it'll be a 3 man race - Wilson, Barkley and Smith. The networks will love it because there won't be a consensus.

The big question I have right now is what can Smith do under pressure? Over the next few weeks can he show that he can move around the pocket and still find open receivers? Can he go through reads? Can he make chicken salad out of chicken shit?

Phobia made a nice observation after the KSt game.

Geno looked like Stanzi did under pressure.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042275)
People laugh but, I am telling you guys, we need the best leader of the three. Talent wise, none of them are all that imo. In a good year for QBs, I think all of them go at the end of the first to the early second.

We need the guy that comes back and wins games, carries the team for short periods, converts third downs, makes the plays that have to be made, and is a clear cut field general who is in absolute command of the offense.

That's what we need to be looking for because the rest of their traits aren't that different.

What if NONE OF THEM are that?

Barkley looks a lot like Leinart with a slightly better deep ball.

Wilson looks almost like an anti-leader at this point.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9042291)
Phobia made a nice observation after the KSt game.

Geno looked like Stanzi did under pressure.

Texas Tech pressure. What would it look like under Denver Broncos pressure?

Chiefnj2 10-23-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042292)
Wilson looks almost like an anti-leader at this point.

Why do you say that?

htismaqe 10-23-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042296)
Texas Tech pressure. What would it look like under Denver Broncos pressure?

It's most certainly not that simple.

suds79 10-23-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042274)
I don't want any part of Barkley. At all.

Yeah I'm with ya. I just think his tools are so average.

Right now I'm

1 - Geno
2 - Wilson

I wouldn't be upset with Wilson at all. I just don't want Barkley.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042292)

Wilson looks almost like an anti-leader at this point.

I would say you read some crap from ESPN about the comments he made after the Bama game and didn't watch the interview. Wilson is the only leader on that team. They don't even have a coach. Those players love him.

Wilson reminds me of Jay Cutler. I think he is misunderstood. I definately think he is the most pro ready of the three with Barkley a close second. When I see Geno, I see a guy that could crack if you started him the first year. He has happy feet right now. He would need to sit a while.

Chiefnj2 10-23-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042274)
I don't want any part of Barkley. At all.

Your stuck with the draft class that is available unless you want to play the Hunt game of "wait another year."

suds79 10-23-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042308)
I would say you read some crap from ESPN about the comments he made after the Bama game and didn't watch the interview. Wilson is the only leader on that team. They don't even have a coach. Those players love him.

I think everybody is basing this leadership question based on those comments which is extremely uninformed. I don't think any of us can pretend to know someone's leadership without being in that lockerroom.

The worse thing he said in that pressor (right after a frustrating beadown mind you) is that he felt the team gave up at times. OOOOOOh The horror. I have no problem with a QB holding guys accountable.

You want a QB who is a nice guy all the time? You have him in Matt Cassel.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042309)
Your stuck with the draft class that is available unless you want to play the Hunt game of "wait another year."

Yep, what if Barkley was the only one there when we pick? Do you guys want us to take him?

suds79 10-23-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042327)
Yep, what if Barkley was the only one there when we pick? Do you guys want us to take him?

Yep.

Even though I'm not a fan, I'd rather roll the dice. Some QB is better than no QB at all.

Some really good LB isn't going to do us squat. It's all about the QB.

Brock 10-23-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042327)
Yep, what if Barkley was the only one there when we pick? Do you guys want us to take him?

Yes.

BossChief 10-23-2012 10:06 AM

The only guy out of this class that I see as better than Tannehill is Geno Smith.

I'd be ok with Barkley or Wilson, but I'm sold that either have elite upside.

Geno does.

BossChief 10-23-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042327)
Yep, what if Barkley was the only one there when we pick? Do you guys want us to take him?

In a heartbeat

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042274)
I don't want any part of Barkley. At all.

Will take, but DO NOT WANT.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-23-2012 10:27 AM

Poor man's Jason Campbell. Right Black Bob???

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9042431)
Poor man's Jason Campbell. Right Black Bob???

Who? That's not what I was thinking.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-23-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042461)
Who?

I think he's more of a Cambell/McNabb/Culpepper/Russel/Smith combo though.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042308)
I would say you read some crap from ESPN about the comments he made after the Bama game and didn't watch the interview. Wilson is the only leader on that team. They don't even have a coach. Those players love him.

The Chiefs players love Romeo, too. They may love him but that doesn't make him a leader. He's not inspiring the players around him to WIN. And they've lost some games they absolutely SHOULD NOT have lost.

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042308)
Wilson reminds me of Jay Cutler. I think he is misunderstood.

Dude, how do you expect to be taken seriously?

You talk about wanting leadership, leadership, and more leadership, and then you compare Wilson to JAY ****ING CUTLER? Cutler is a whiny douchebag and the last guy you want if you're gunning for a championship.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9042465)
I think he's more of a Cambell/McNabb/Culpepper/Russel/Smith combo though.

So what you are saying is that all black QBs are the same? That's not cool.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9042309)
Your stuck with the draft class that is available unless you want to play the Hunt game of "wait another year."

I think Barkley is headed for a Brady Quinn-like fall. If he's the only guy left when we pick, I'd be tempted to trade back.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042478)

You talk about wanting leadership, leadership, and more leadership, and then you compare Wilson to JAY ****ING CUTLER? Cutler is a whiny douchebag and the last guy you want if you're gunning for a championship.

Because the media made him out that way. Just like Wilson and that was my point. The players in Chicago respect Cutler.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042488)
Because the media made him out that way. Just like Wilson and that was my point. The players in Chicago respect Cutler.

I don't give a shit what the players in Chicago think.

When the going gets tough, Jay Cutler throws a baby fit.

He's a loser, period.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:44 AM

Anybody listening to Petro?

He says the Chiefs are going to pick Akili Smith.

He's convinced they WILL take a QB. And he's also convinced they SHOULDN'T.

He's basically on the "you should only take a QB if it's Andrew Luck/RG3" bandwagon.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-23-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042501)
Anybody listening to Petro?

He says the Chiefs are going to pick Akili Smith.

He's convinced they WILL take a QB. And he's also convinced they SHOULDN'T.

He's basically on the "you should only take a QB if it's Andrew Luck/RG3" bandwagon.

What a fail he is then :mad: Damn it Petro's a True Fan

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042501)
Anybody listening to Petro?

He says the Chiefs are going to pick Akili Smith.
He's convinced they WILL take a QB. And he's also convinced they SHOULDN'T.

He's basically on the "you should only take a QB if it's Andrew Luck/RG3" bandwagon.

Imagine that, I got killed and called a racist for saying that. This is a bad QB class. I would honestly consider Mallett over any of these guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9042504)
What a fail he is then :mad: Damn it Petro's a True Fan

You're JUST NOW learning this?!?!?!?

Petro has been a COLOSSAL bag o' dick FAIL since Pioli came to town.

suds79 10-23-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042509)
Imagine that, I got killed and called a racist for saying that. This is a bad QB class. I would honestly rather have Mallett than any of these guys.

Are you high?

A radio hack doesn't believe in the talent available and all of a sudden it's validated? You'd rather have another cast off QB in Ryan Mallett? Haven't we tried that plan for decades?

How many of those type of guys have won SBs? Now how many type of guys drafted high in the 1st have won SBs?

No despite the possibility of a colossal bust, I think I'll take my chances with the high draft pick.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042509)
Imagine that, I got killed and called a racist for saying that. This is a bad QB class. I would honestly consider Mallett over any of these guys.

You got killed because your takes are moronic on an epic scale.

The fact you'd take Ryan Mallett says it all.

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 10:52 AM

The more i watch of Tyler Wilson, the more impressed i am.

Everytime i watch Geno, his ball placement is what stands out to me. I think he has excellent ball placement.

I think Tyler's is just as good.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:52 AM

Petro just said this:

"I agree they should do it. I agree they HAVE TO DO IT. I just want to make sure the fans understand that it's probably not going to work."

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9042521)
Are you high?

A radio hack doesn't believe in the talent available and all of a sudden it's validated? You'd rather have another cast off QB in Ryan Mallett? Haven't we tried that plan for decades?

How many of those type of guys have won SBs? Now how many type of guys drafted high in the 1st have won SBs?

No despite the possibility of a colossal bust, I think I'll take my chances with the high draft pick.

I edited it to "consider." However, I did get called racist for saying Geno reminded me of Akili Smith.

RealSNR 10-23-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042509)
Imagine that, I got killed and called a racist for saying that. This is a bad QB class. I would honestly consider Mallett over any of these guys.

LMAO LMAO And you talk about how much leadership from the QB position matters

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042539)
Petro just said this:

"I agree they should do it. I agree they HAVE TO DO IT. I just want to make sure the fans understand that it's probably not going to work."

Exactly. There is about a 30% chance a first round QB will be decent and start for a while. The chance of landing a franchise QB is even smaller. However, we need to do it.

htismaqe 10-23-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9042546)
LMAO LMAO And you talk about how much leadership from the QB position matters

Exactly.

He says he values leadership above everything and then talks about Jay Cutler and Ryan Mallett...

:shake:

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042539)
Petro just said this:

"I agree they should do it. I agree they HAVE TO DO IT. I just want to make sure the fans understand that it's probably not going to work."

JFC I hate Petro. ****ing tool.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9042546)
LMAO LMAO And you talk about how much leadership from the QB position matters

Like I said, I am looking for the QB out the three that steps up as the biggest leader. Mallett has been learning from the best for a couple of years now. He might be a better option and a more complete QB than all of them.

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 10:56 AM

Geno Smith is raw. He has an elite skillset though, which is why people are in love with him.

There are a few things that worry me about all of these QB's, but when i watch the big 3, Wilson looks the most pro ready imo.

RealSNR 10-23-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042327)
Yep, what if Barkley was the only one there when we pick? Do you guys want us to take him?

If Landry Jones were the best QB in this draft class and we had the #1 overall pick, I would select Landry Jones with that pick.

Remember, people said the Kansas City Chiefs will never draft/acquire a big-time big-play WR. When we drafted Dwayne Bowe, people said he was immature, and that the lack of talent around him would hinder his much-needed improvement. Well, what do you know? Looks like we picked the right WR after all. And he became good with Brodie Croyle, Damon Huard, and Tyler ****ing Thigpen as his goddamn QBs!

If that can happen, then this team can also pick the right QB. It's now time to start turning over stones in the draft to find that guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9042562)
Geno Smith is raw. He has an elite skillset though, which is why people are in love with him.

There are a few things that worry me about all of these QB's, but when i watch the big 3, Wilson looks the most pro ready imo.

Geno under Zorn is a wet ****ing dream.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:58 AM

We need to draft a QB no matter what. Even if we trade for a QB.

RealSNR 10-23-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042558)
Like I said, I am looking for the QB out the three that steps up as the biggest leader. Mallett has been learning from the best for a couple of years now. He might be a better option and a more complete QB than all of them.

Geno Smith's so-called "immaturity" stems from his fashion choices for cranium accessories during press conferences and where he chooses to drink his gatorade on the sideline.

Ryan Mallett's immaturity stems from not giving a shit about his teammates, running into legal troubles, consuming alcohol, and being a total ****ing asswipe in terms of intelligence

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9042564)
Geno under Zorn is a wet ****ing dream.

Are you serious?

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042567)
We need to draft a QB no matter what. Even if we trade for a QB.

I hope you mean "trade up for a QB"

htismaqe 10-23-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042558)
Like I said, I am looking for the QB out the three that steps up as the biggest leader. Mallett has been learning from the best for a couple of years now. He might be a better option and a more complete QB than all of them.

Mallett hasn't EVER displayed leadership qualities in the past. He almost completely derailed his career doing rails.

MATT CASSEL spent 4 years learning from the best, how well did it serve him?

JFC. :shake:

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042570)
Are you serious?

Yes, myrtle. I'm dead serious.

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9042569)
Geno Smith's so-called "immaturity" stems from his fashion choices for cranium accessories during press conferences and where he chooses to drink his gatorade on the sideline.

Ryan Mallett's immaturity stems from not giving a shit about his teammates, running into legal troubles, consuming alcohol, and being a total ****ing asswipe in terms of intelligence

But, he's been to the Bill Belicheck Rehab Center in Boston, MA and learned from great counselors like Tom Brady.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042575)
But, he's been to the Bill Belicheck Rehab Center in Boston, MA and learned from great counselors like Tom Brady.

YES! M,ORE PATRIOT WAY BULLSHIT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED!!!!

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042575)
But, he's been to the Bill Belicheck Rehab Center in Boston, MA and learned from great counselors like Tom Brady.

:rolleyes:

RealSNR 10-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042575)
But, he's been to the Bill Belicheck Rehab Center in Boston, MA and learned from great counselors like Tom Brady.

Previous graduates of the Bill Belichick School for Assholes and Overgrown Babies:

Randy Moss
Albert Haynesworth
Chad Johnson

And they're all doing GREEEEAAT

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9042574)
Yes, myrtle. I'm dead serious.

What has Jim Zorn with QBs that he has coached man? What makes you think Jim Zorn is the QB officianado?

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9042581)
Previous graduates of the Bill Belichick School for Assholes and Overgrown Babies:

Randy Moss
Albert Haynesworth
Chad Johnson

And they're all doing GREEEEAAT

Good point... ROFL

ILChief 10-23-2012 11:03 AM

Petro: all the QBs in this draft suck

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9042586)
Petro: all the QBs in this draft suck

Wow......

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9042586)
Petro: all the QBs in this draft suck

THAT STUPID, COCKSUCKING MOTHER****ER.:mad:

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9042572)
Mallett hasn't EVER displayed leadership qualities in the past. He almost completely derailed his career doing rails.

MATT CASSEL spent 4 years learning from the best, how well did it serve him?

JFC. :shake:

I know why he dropped. I also know he has walked the line in New England and stayed straight. He is worth a look in my opinion.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042582)
What has Jim Zorn with QBs that he has coached man? What makes you think Jim Zorn is the QB officianado?

Are you delusional, or just out of your damned mind?!

suds79 10-23-2012 11:04 AM

Not that I would consider the option but in talking about Mallett...

The guy was a 3rd round draft choice. So it would be costly. At the very least a 2nd.

Bill isn't going to give away a 3rd for peanuts. No thank you. Bill can fleece over somebody else.

Chris Meck 10-23-2012 11:05 AM

You HAVE to do it. No matter what. And if that guy looks iffy, then you do it again in 2014. Rinse and repeat UNTIL YOU GET YOUR GUY.

Even if you 'trade for a QB'. Seattle looks pretty smart right now. (yes I know, Flynn was a FA. The end result is the same).

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9042586)
Petro: all the QBs in this draft suck

DT and QB are the weakest positions in the 2013 draft class for sure. This will be common knowledge soon.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:06 AM

Petro should be ****ing CAINED for dumbing down the fan base on a regular basis.

Stupid prick.

ToxSocks 10-23-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042596)
DT and QB are the weakest positions in the 2013 draft class for sure. This will be common knowledge soon.

Every year there are 3-4 QB's worth taking. This year is no different.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-23-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9042596)
DT and QB are the weakest positions in the 2013 draft class for sure. This will be common knowledge soon.

OMG FIRE, die in it.

RealSNR 10-23-2012 11:07 AM

What the **** has Ryan Mallett ever done, besides?

Matt Cassel at least started 15 games.

Matt Flynn has done very well when starting two games, and didn't need to demonstrate to people that he could be trusted in terms of citizenship and leadership.

What the **** has Ryan Mallett ever done as a backup besides preseason?

suds79 10-23-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9042599)
Every year there are 3-4 QB's worth taking. This year is no different.

Yep. Completely agree. All the talk last year was how Ryan Tannehill was going to suck and was a reach.

Is there a person among us who wouldn't swap out Poe for him now?

Woodchuck 10-23-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9042591)
Are you delusional, or just out of your damned mind?!

Where's the success? He coached Batch, Campbell, Flacco, and Cassel. What so great about the guy? Did Cassel not get worse since he's come to KC? jim Zorn made Cassel worse. Now that's hard to do.

Chiefnj2 10-23-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9042610)
Yep. Completely agree. All the talk last year was how Ryan Tannehill was going to suck and was a reach.

Is there a person among us who wouldn't swap out Poe for him now?

There isn't a person who shouldn't want to swap Wilson, Weeden, Foles, Cousins or Osweiler for Poe.


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